Yeast for breadmaker

[I am in the UK] I have recently purchased a (cheap!) breadmaker, and have made my first two loaves.

The recipe book specifies 1/2 tsp of yeast to 450 grams flour, while the yeast I purchased, Hovis Fast Action (six sachets for an extortionate 89p) says one sachet (7 grams - about 2 tsp) for 750 grams of flour. I decided to follow the yeast and put in most of a packet.

Unfortunately the dough rose much too much. The result was reasonably tasty, but definitely too much yeast.

So for my second loaf I decided to follow the recipe book strictly, and put in 1/2 tsp of yeast.

This one rose hardly at all.

Given the massive discrepancy can anyone suggest a yeast to use - the sachets are wasteful given that they are designed for 2/3 more flour, not too mention that they seem to have different (less!) raising power per tsp than the yeast specified.

My supermarkets (Sainsburys, Tesco or Asda) sell only these sachets or yeast which must be mixed with water and described as *not* suitable for use in breadmakers.

Ocado (Waitrose) sell Dove Farm Quick Yeast (125grams) for 89p, which I guess will be better. It is also available here at

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even they specify 1tsp (twice as much as my bread machine) ofyeast. So is this a different kind of yeast again, or is yeast thatflexible that you can halve the quantities with the same effect? And does anyone know where on the high street I can buy a tub of suitable dried yeast?

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Matthew
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I've always used the Allinson's sachets and use 1.5 teaspoons per 750g loaf. I tried the Dove's yeast but didn't get on with it too well as it either didn't rise enough, or when I added more yeast the bread tasted too yeasty. My local Coop has just started stocking big packets of Allinson's yeast (the same kind as in the sachets) and it's much more convenient than using the sachets and works well in my machine. I find when using the Hovis fast action yeast that it works better on the quick program on my machine than it does on the full length one, but I do need to add a full sachet of it each time. If you can only get the sachets, they do keep ok in the fridge if you put some sort of clip on the top (I use a peg). You can then finsih off the sachet the next day. How much salt and sugar are you adding to your loaf? If you are using too much sugar then the bread could rise too much and the same could happen if you don't use enough salt. All bread machines are different though and it's case of trial and error when you buy a new one. Just keep varying the quantities of everything until you get a loaf you like. Mel.

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Mel

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I always use the Dove yeast - works fine for me in a panny bread machine. I use about 1 tablespoon for a 1.5lb loaf. I previously tried the Allinson sachets and found they didn't rise much.

Just goes to show that other factors such as water hardness, amounts of salt and sugar etc are just as important.

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Nick Pitfield

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This is what I use and it does the job just fine. For a 2lb loaf I use

2tsp of this yeast. A 2lb loaf uses 4 cups of flour, weighing something like 550g.

Your recipe with 1/2 tsp per 450g doesn't sound like enough. Use about 1 3/4 for this amount of flour. The sachet looks closer. I would use about 2/3 of a sachet for 450g.

HTH

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Adrian Tupper

"Mel" wrote in news:0GdIb.6713$ snipped-for-privacy@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:

That's interesting. I find Dove's Farm works better than Allinsons. Must be the different machine and/or flour. I would use about 2.5 tsp of Dove's Farm yeast for 750g, which is probably what you did. I don't taste the yeast though.

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Adrian Tupper

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Go on the hunt for big packs of Fermipan yeast. Eighth Day in Manchester, a local wholefood shop, sells them, 500g for about £2. Bought a pack in March, gave half to a friend, and I'm still using the other half from the freezer. Initially I used 1/2 tsp for 400g of white flour, 1 tsp for granary or wholemeal; as the yeast is now rather elderly I've upped that by

50%.

What flour are you using? To get bread right you need appropriate proportions of flour, water and yeast. Flours do vary - one brand of white will need more yeast than another brand. Your lack of rising could be from other causes - too little water, or I've managed to produce brick like results by trying to put fresh garlic in.

-- He's DEAD, Jim. Tell the Klingons that dinner is served. Steph Peters, Manchester, England email: delete invalid from snipped-for-privacy@sandbenders.demon.co.uk.invalid

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Steph Peters

In message , Steph Peters writes

I haven't seen that. Shall have a search for it.

PS Wasn't it lovely when you could walk down to the baker's and ask for fresh yeast? You could freeze it for ages and it still came up trumps. Pity. That is what the supermarkets have done for us:( (sadly, - even Waitrose).

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June Hughes

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You can get free fresh yeast at Tescos if you ask - took me a while to adapt it for the abm though - though it definitely gives a different result.

On the whole I'm a Fermipan convert too.

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Kev Crocombe

I also think 1/2tsp for 450gram flour is too little. It is possible to use less yeast if the fermentation is longer. Maybe your recipe book is not for bread machine.

The amount of yeast used in the recipe varies from brand to brand slighly. The instruction from the yest manufacturers calls for too much yeast. One sachet can be used for nearly 2lb flour. Besides, one sachet is about 2.25 tsp yeast. How about the recipe from the manual? You can start from that and adjust it next time.

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wildeny

Sounds like you live in England? Do they have "instant yeast" as well in the larger packs? In the US, we have instant yeast in the large packets. I use nothing else but "instant" yeast in the bread machine, although I use the other "active dry" in other baking.

One thing about instant yeast is that it doesn't need proofed (put in water) first; although I don't think your bread machine would call for it to be proofed. But it 'activates' more quickly. And as it is a finer grain, I think the measurement may be just a little difference in weight, but who knows without measuring it.

I use about 1-1/2 teaspoons of instant yeast in my bread machine in all recipes that call for around 4 cups of flour, and whether or not I add flakes; oatmeal, barley, or rye.

I always add wet ingredients first, then on the top of my dry ingredients, I add my yeast. No matter what machine I've used, I don't think I've got more than .5% failure.

Try these two things first, and I'll bet you're in business.

Dee

Manchester, a

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Dee Randall

I have used Allinsons yeast from a drum in my bread machine and it works just fine.it doesn't state on the tin --not for use in bread machines though --just for regular bread making, any way it was fine. i also get my fresh yeast free from my local asda/Walmart and have done for yonks.sometimes i only get a piece about 1/2 ounce to 1 ounce in weight, other times i get about 3 ounces depending on who serves me so i freeze what i am not going to use within two days for later use. By the way the baker said that it does not freeze BUT i have been freezing yeast since before he was born!!!!!.any way back to bread machines-do you all prefer bread machine bread to the good old fashioned hand made stuff.as one of my girls has my machine at the moment i am now making it by hand and i must say my old man( and me )much prefer it, And it doesn't take too long to make even with two provings.

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paula

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