Anglican rosary

it's very nice! Love the colors and like how small it is in comparison to the ones I made a little while ago.

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Pam" :

]it's very nice! Love the colors and like how small it is in comparison to ]the ones I made a little while ago.

did you make RC ones? or Anglican ones? i was surprised at the size of all of them, too . . . i guess if i used much larger beads, they would come out longer, but i was aiming at more contrast between the "week" beads and the prayer beads.

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mine were RC:

and scroll about 1/2 way down to see them if you want. Not having ever held a rosary in my hands before, mine seemed really long. I like the way yours looks - like it wouldn't get out of control holding it (but what do I know). I have also seen RC ones that are just one decade long - they look nice and manageable too.

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Pam" :

]mine were RC:

and scroll about 1/2 way ]down to see them if you want. ah, yes! i remember. ]Not having ever held a rosary in my hands before, mine seemed really long. I ]like the way yours looks - like it wouldn't get out of control holding it ](but what do I know). I have also seen RC ones that are just one decade ]long - they look nice and manageable too.

no - your Catholic ones are "correct" - and the Catholic one I have [from when i was a RC] is long like that. the only time i ever saw them WORN was by the nuns - tucked into their belts somehow. but the RC ones are different and much longer than the Anglican ones.

trust me - i had to recount this one at least six times, because it seemed waaaaaaaaaaaay too short!

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The nun's rosaries often have more than just the five decades. Those five decades are just a chaplet or a part of the full rosary. The nun's rosaries are often fifteen decades long. Recently, though, five more decades/meditations were added so a full rosary is now twenty decades. Most people just use the five decade model and rotate the meditations/mysteries by the days of the week.

I rarely see fifteen decade rosaries in the religious shops. I haven't seen a twenty-decade one in person yet, though I have seen them on-line. I hope to make one for myself sometime...but I want to make it out of nice materials and that is going to cost. I still have to hurry and finish my new rosary for the Easter Vigil (I am being confirmed after a long delay). It's just a plain, traditional one in river stone. Nothing fancy...this time.

Paula

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "PaulaGarlic" :

]The nun's rosaries often have more than just the five decades. Those five ]decades are just a chaplet or a part of the full rosary. The nun's rosaries ]are often fifteen decades long. Recently, though, five more ]decades/meditations were added so a full rosary is now twenty decades. Most ]people just use the five decade model and rotate the meditations/mysteries ]by the days of the week.

thank you! all those years of being a RC and more info i didn't know!

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Pretty!

How are they different? I made a rosary for my Episcopalian ex once (all out of lampwork... yes, all the teeny beads too!) but I'm not familiar enough to know the difference.

-Kalera

vj wrote:

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kalera Stratton :

]How are they different? I made a rosary for my Episcopalian ex once (all ]out of lampwork... yes, all the teeny beads too!) but I'm not familiar ]enough to know the difference.

RC ones have LOTS more beads.

The Anglican Rosary is made up of thirty-three beads divided into four groups of seven called weeks. Between each week is a single bead. In Christian tradition the sacred number four represents the four quadrants of the church's year. In its yearly cycle the church's calendar moves through the cardinal points which represent major events in the life of Christ, beginning with the season of Advent, and passing through Christmas, Epiphany, Lent, Holy Week, Easter and Pentecost. In moral theology there are also the four cardinal virtues: prudence, justice, fortitude, and temperance which are the four corners in the moral foundation of all human life. In addition to these there are the four cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west, as well as the four primary elements: earth, water, wind, and fire.

The number seven is repeated four times in the Rosary to create a conventional month. In the Judeo-Christian tradition the number seven represents spiritual perfection and completion. Prayer is the Christian's cry for completion. Symbolic completion is represented by adding together the four weeks of seven beads to the four cruciform beads plus the additional entry bead representing the divine Unity at the beginning of the Rosary. The full number of the beads, thirty-three (a multiple of three), prayed three times (signifying the Trinity) equals ninety-nine, which in the Middle Eastern traditions is the complete number of the Divine Names. Adding the crucifix at the beginning or the end, brings the total to one hundred which is the total of the Orthodox Rosary and represents the fullness of creation.

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The use of a form of the Roman Catholic Rosary was in vogue among Eastern Orthodox bishops, including meditation on the mysteries. Such forms of prayer are to be found among the devotions of representatives of the Kyivan Baroque spiritual period in the eighteenth century, including St. Dimitry Tuptalo who translated the "Lives of Saints" into contemporary language and who even adopted western prayer forms in honour of the "Joys and Sorrows of Our Lady" and the practice of reciting a "Hail Mary" at the beginning of each and every hour of the day.

• Thus, the Western Rosary was used solely as a substitute for the Psalter which it reflected in nature. The Eastern "chotki" or "vervitsa" was for a different purpose altogether. _______________

note: a RC rosary uses a crucifix. and Anglican rosary uses a plain cross.

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WOW! Learned something new today. I didn't KNOW there was such a thing as an Anglican Rosary. I've been making catholic rosaries beacause I like the challenge of bringing color and flair to a rosary, or scaling it down to be perfect for a young child's first communion. Having been raised Lutheran, I am vaguely fascinated by rosaries, but more from an artistic perspective than from a religious perspective. My DH comes from a VERY catholic family, so many of the rosaries I see are dark, and heavy and contempletive. I think they should be light and colorful and sparkling clear (lots of swarovski and lampwork). joyful. But, that is just MHO. :)

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com (katiewise) :

]WOW! Learned something new today. I didn't KNOW there was such a ]thing as an Anglican Rosary.

**smile** even as a long-time Anglican, i didn't either until a few years ago. it's not something used by all Anglicans.

]I think they ]should be light and colorful and sparkling clear (lots of swarovski ]and lampwork). joyful. But, that is just MHO. :)

i'm with you on that one!

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mine were RC:

and scroll about 1/2 way down to see them if you want.> reading the blog about the rockets and dying laughing here -- my boys did rockets too - losing them is part of the deal.... you just have to get used to the idea... buy a lot of the little ones - 3- 4 inches - and don't even bother painting the things - just glue the fins on - and shoot them.... they you don't feel like you've lost a ton of time and effort... LOL Our local scout organization used to do a big rocket thing. We had these "battery" launches which were amazing - and the number of mangled and lost rockets was pretty high. Even funnier - was the troop or two that would INTENTIONALLY rig their rocket for some spectacular disasters... LOL I guess the older guys realize these things are not meant for "permanance" -- something a young kid doesn't understand yet -- I can remember searching cornfields for rockets of the boys when they were young....

pics of the last scout rocket launch we went to at

(my chris is the one wearing the crazy camo campaign hat, and the blue flannel shirt...) Cheryl last semester of lawschool! yipee! DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

I still have to hurry and finish my new rosary for the Easter Vigil (I am being confirmed after a long delay). It's just a plain, traditional one in river stone. Nothing fancy...this time.

Paula>

congrats Paula

hope it gets finished in time!!! and we - of course - get to see a picture of it...

Cheryl last semester of lawschool! yipee! DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:25:23 -0400, katiewise wrote (in message ):

I'm going to give you another perspective, this one from a person who uses a rosary now and again. (Though, in the inerests of full disclosure, I've been known to keep count on my knuckles, when a rosary isn't handy) When praying the rosary, you are supposed to be contemplative, thinking about the mysteries of the gospel: the joyful mysteries, the sorrowful mysteries and the glorious mysteries.

That's not to say that there isn't happiness and joy in these prayers, but the main focus isn't and should not be on the beauty of the beads. (At least while they're being used) Personally, I would find it difficult, if not impossible, to use a rosary made of lampwork and "Austrian Crystals," because rather than being a simple counter to flow through my hands as I contemplate the infinity of God, I know I'd be feeling each bead as an individual, and looking at it.

To me, and I may be alone on this one, a rosary can be beautiful, but the beads should have a certain sameness, and should be smooth (or at least boring to the touch). A well used rosary is going to pick up the oils from the hands of the user, which is why you see so many rosaries made of jet, olivewood or [old] ivory. It's also going to get banged around a fair amount, since ideally, it's supposed to be carried with you all the time in a purse or a pocket. (Most people don't do this, obviously)

I couldn't use a rosary like the beautiful one you made. I'd greatly prefer one with round Swar...Oops, "Austrian Crystals" for the Hail Marys' and perhaps a lampwork bead for the "Our Fathers." (also known as Paternosters) That would be beautiful and perhaps not distracting to the person using it for prayer.

BTW, I don't find the old jet rosaries to be grim and unhappy. I love the feeling of it being used so many times that the beads are worn smooth, and the almost weightlessness of them, the way they effortlessly slip through the fingers, as if they are a part of your hand and the feeling that this particular rosary has "heard" the dreams, fears and concerns of many more hearts than my own. The object itself almost has power, although of course, it can never be more than a counter for the "true" Rosary, which are the acts of prayer and contemplation.

Just my two cents,

Kathy N-V

both the Anglican Rosary and the CAtholic Rosary are designed to assist in contemplitive prayer, to act as place holders if you will.

The Anglical Rosary is smaller than a typical Catholic rosary. It has

4 groups of 7 beads, plus the 5 main beads, and 1 other bead, and a crucifix. Each bead sybolizes a particular prayer, and you move from bead to bead to keep your place. For lots more info on the symbolism and structure, go to

The catholic rosary was already nicely defined by VJ earlier in the post. :)

5, or 15, or 20, groups of 10 beads (the Hail Mary prayer beads) each decade being separated by an "Our Father" bead (the Lord's prayer) and then the "stem" containing a connector (usually Mary or a patron saint) followed by an Our Father bead, 3 Hail Mary beads, the last Our Father bead and then the crucifix.

The idea for each, as well as the various knotted prayer ropes and other items used in religions throughout the world, remains the same. Each contain specific prayers, usually fairly short, that allows you to "center" yourself. It is not a time to focus on the specific words you are saying, but on their greater spiritual meaning, whatever that happens to mean to you. The words are automatic (hence the placeholders), it is the deeper contemplation you should be focusing on.

There. more than you wanted to know. :) Katie (the hell-bound heathen. at least I'll have good company)

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com (katiewise) :

]The Anglical Rosary is smaller than a typical Catholic rosary. It has ]4 groups of 7 beads, plus the 5 main beads, and 1 other bead, and a ]crucifix.

correct - except that the Anglican rosary does not use a crucifix - just a plain cross.

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