Yes -- it is RCTN or rec.crafts.textiles.needlework and is for ALL forms of needlework not just cross stitch. If you are into quilting, there is a quilting newsgroup :-))! CiaoMeow >^;;^< . PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< Queen of Kitties Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their WHISKERS!! Nothing is complete without a few cat hairs!