info on a stained glass window

My wife and I purchased a stained glass window recently. It was smoke damaged with a couple of small broken pieces of glass and some loose lead We had it repaired, cleaned and the stained glass person indicated it was old ( what ever that means).

I have posted picts at

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of the glass is painted in black that creates the pattern. itsabout 4-5' tall and 2' wide and has reinforcement built into the piece. The person that sold it to us stated it came from a burned church in LA California. He also stated that the church was built in the late

1700's. FWIW! We did not buy it because of the age but because we thought it would clean up into something interesting.

What we are looking for is help in determining how old it is and what the provenance of the piece is. We presently have it in a window to keep it safe but are intending on placing it in a light box in a group of book cases in the living room. any help here would also be appreciated.

it has an Orthodox Church feel to me but did other churches use the same style at times?

Any leads or suggestion about how we might find out more would be appreciated.

Reply to
jungle Jim
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This type of window was considered "temporary" glazing. They installed this type of glass in new churches and it was removed and replaced with "fancy" memorial type windows when the church got money from donors. The glass in your window is machine made "cathedral" glass. This tells me that the window is not older then the mid 1800's. Prior to that, the window would have been made from "blown" glass. There is no way of determining the provenance. Windows like yours were made all over the world.

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Vic

Hello Jim,

You may be able to find someone that does stained glass restorations who would know the history behind windows such as yours. Also, the Stained Glass Association of America (

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)may be able to provide the names of individuals who are qualified in stained glass history. You may also try the Glass Art Society
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as another avenue to find some answers. I wish I could be of more help to you.

John

Reply to
JDA

The grissell style of painting does have its roots in the 1700's, but we , or any moderately professional craftsman , could fabricate a matching window tomorrow. I dont agree that your window was intended to be temporary. I do think that your glass probably is machine rolled , but I'm not willing to state that it is not mouth blown from a photograph. The chappies that restored your window are best positioned to offer opinions but if they re-leaded, shame on them for putting the dogwood bloom in off center. It's a decent window. And this is a useless guess from a photo: 1870-1920. Shape shows Spanish/Moorish influence so that fits with California. Mind you don't leave it hanging like that for too long, you're probably stressing the window. Janice

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Janice Hudnall

I put the word temporary in quotes,as these windows were typically stenciled with a simple leading pattern. They were cheap and fast to produce. This does not mean that these are inferior windows in any way. Thus when wealthy parishioners donated money new "memorial" type windows replaced them. It is rare to see a whole church today glazed with "grisaille" (proper spelling) quarries.

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Vic

I appreciate the info on our window. When we purchased it we took what the seller said with a lot of salt. so we aren't suprised that it was a "just so story" As I mentioned the window is hanging in a window being supported by a couple of rods that support it on the built in braces.

We are looking for where to go to get a method of hanging it in a light box. I am in the process of looking for info but wonder if someone here could reduce the number of blind alleys to go through.

jim

Reply to
jungle Jim

Vic temporary glazing this intricate? The temp glazing I've seen was boxes or diamonds. This is pretty busy.

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Glassman

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