could one sell a finished work. for instance could one stitch a chart, destroy the chart and sell the finished work. The sale price would be for the materials and labour??? could one then buy another copy of the said chart , stitch and sell the finished work?? If not why not?? Would it be the same as say someone contracting with one to buy a particular chart , the materials and stitch it for a 3 party.??? Ruby Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
I tried to send this privately, but I can't figure out how to edit your address to remove the .spam from witin Google (help anyone?)...
I have the Easy Putt chart from Alida that I'll never get around to. I was planning to put it on eBay at some point. Please contact me privately (my E-mail address isn't munged) if your coworker would like to make an offer to purchase it from me or I can put it on eBay next week and she (and whoever) can bid on it. That way, you won't have to worry about the copyright issue and you'll both have legal charts (and I'll get it off my "to do" list). I'll be away from the computer for the weekend, but can get back to you on Monday.
If i read you correctly and if i had lived in the USA , i could now charge all those lecturers and Guides who show my work , [ and never asked permission !!!!] On their laptops Shows and Slides ,,,, ??? mirjam
I tottlay understand you Ruby ,.... let`s take it wider , does a conditor , baking cakes from baking books , have to but a New Book everytime he sells this cake ???? mirjam
Umm, if I read a book and keep it in good condition and pass it on to someone, I have, according to your logic, denied the author a sale. Lending libraries, by your logic, deny the authors of books more sales and are therefore not morally right.
Hope this answers your questions. As per my example of a designer intending to put 10,000 charts (images) on to the market, say that the chart you purchased happens to be number 10,000. Your finished work becomes (image) number 10,001. Destroy the chart (image) that you purchased and your finished work now becomes image number 10,000. You could sell the finished work for what ever price that you want. No designer is going to complain about *one* customer making *one* copy of a chart for their *own personal working purposes* and destroying the copy when they are done. Technically the original chart should also be destroyed but I save it in order to stitch a second design in case a fire or whatever destroyed the first stitched design.
What hurts is when 10,000 customers each make a copy of their chart (image). Now there is the 10,000 of the designer's chart (images) on the market which were legally purchased but there is also the 10,000 extra copies of the chart (images) floating around. If all those 10,000 copies are sold or given away the designer loses out those 10,000 of chart (image) sales.
*Technically speaking* one should buy a new chart (image) for every stitching project. Back to my example again. A church group purchases a Christmas Stocking chart (image) number 10,000. The church group stitches five Christmas Stockings from the same chart to sell at a fund raising church tea and takes one photograph for church advertising purposes. This is what happens; The Christmas Stocking chart the church group purchased is image number
10,000. Stitched Christmas Stocking No. 1 is image 10,001 Stitched Christmas Stocking No. 2 is image 10,002 Stitched Christmas Stocking No. 3 is image 10,003 Stitched Christmas Stocking No. 4 is image 10,004 Stitched Christmas Stocking No. 5 is image 10,005 The Christmas Stocking photograph is image 10,006 The church group has now put into circulation six more images than the designer had intended. In most circumstances for a small number (less than
50) stitched pieces of work, if the church group tells the designer what their plans are the designer will give a welcome ok. Sometimes the designer might ask that her/his name be included in the church advertisment.
If a church group's plans were to stitch 20,000 Christmas Stockings from the same chart and had plans to sell the Christmas Stockings to raise money for their church they can expect the designer to want a royalty payment of ¢¢¢ per stitched Christmas Stocking. The reason being that the customers of who purchased the 20,000 stitched Christmas Stockings didn't have to buy 20,000 charts from the designer depriving the designer of revenue for making a living
Another example, say I was to sell your church group one set of the plans for making a Stitch Away needlepoint foot stool. I would be a bit ticked off if your church group thought they could make 10,000 needlepoint foot stools from one set of plans without paying some sort of royalty per needlepoint foot stool. The church group would be unfairly taking revenue away from me and I would not be fairly compensated for my idea nor the engineering that went into designing the needlepoint foot stool in the first place.
Fred
formatting link
't backstitch to emailjust stitchit. If you are on thin ice you might as well dance!
W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof", "Oriental Maiden".
YES, In fact you could demand payment in any country which has signed the international copyright agreement, Canada, England, etc. but would your court costs be worth it???
So what Mirjam you wants to buy a Martha Stewart's cook book and bake a million cakes for a living without Martha Stewart saying a word or asking for a commission??? Somehow I don't think you will get passed the first 10,000 cakes. LOL
Fred
formatting link
't backstitch to emailjust stitchit. If you are on thin ice you might as well dance!
Not exactly. You purchased the book, the author made their money. You give the book away or lose it on a bus, there is still the same number of the books in circulation. You did not profit from the action that took place. In the case of libraries while they might not make a profit they do make enough money to pay salaries and most libraries pay the author a royalty, at lest the libraries here do. What hurts most authors is when a teacher photocopies parts of a book for handouts in a school and the author does not get a commission or royalty. That has come to a stop here also.
I think the publishers are the ones that bleat the most because they lose the most money - a lot more than most authors. LOL Most good authors get paid up front and then a commission per book sold comes after.
Fred
formatting link
Don't backstitch to email just stitchit. If you are on thin ice you might as well dance!
W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof", "Oriental Maiden".
What's stupid about saying "Feh?" It's a Yiddish word that I believe means that whoever is saying it is dismissing an idea or a thought as being a silly one.
I see it as an all purpose word that says exactly what you want it to.
Now you lost me completely. I have no clue what you're objecting to. Is it the word that you think is stupid, or is it the idea that you think is stupid? Inquiring minds want to know?
And, in fact, that's the problem. We used to estimate a minimum of $10,000 to run a case to the stage just before trial.
While you can, in many cases, get your court costs ordered if you win, the question is whether the other side has enough assets to actually get payment of that $10,000. If they live in a rented apartment, their only transport is the city bus, you might get a couple hundred bucks worth of used furniture, and that's it. So, the question is, how much are you willing to pay to defend your copyright? (Or else make sure that your first few cases are against people who *do* have money, and that these are well-publicized to scare off others.)
How, not exactly? If I buy a chart and give it away, I have not increased the number of copies in circulation and I have not profited from the transaction.
Most libraries I'm familiar with do not make enough money to pay salaries. They are supported by local, state, or federal funds (or some combination thereof). I do know that journals charge more for subscriptions to libraries and that library-bound hardbacks cost more.
If it's for educational use, and is a limited portion, then here it falls under Fair Use laws. But those are actually more complex than most people realize.
InspirePoint website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here.
All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.