OT Steve Irwin Croc Hunter Killed

Thanks Karen - I was a bit taken aback by his post and wondered the same thing.

He has popped in from time to time Karen. I believe the first few times there was a quilting context? or it might have been to one of our OT threads; but he has been here once or twice. I imagine from his e-mail address that he lives in the UK. . In message , "Karen, Queen of Squishies" writes

Why on earth should anyone who wants to participate NOT be in this group? And why do you need credentials?

I honestly cannot believe the intolerant and clicquish attitude of some of the silly women here.

But you *are* offending these women! They don't want to think about real issues - they just want to go oogie boogie woogie over Irwin, as if he had any special talents (other than foolishness and a blatant disregard for the welfare of animals) or was anything other than a loud, outrageous yahoo.

Being that person certainly earned him money, but I can't figure out where all the admiration comes from. Maybe some people have to find someone else to fantasize about now that he's dead?

If you have any doubts at all about a difference of opinion offending people on this message board, just stick around and hear the clucking over this message I'm posting now. It will probably be similar to the uproar that happens when a fox gets into the henhouse - but of course I'm no fox, and neither are you.

Troll?????? Gen

Troll??????? Gen

Sorry Rose, but yours was the only one that came through my server.

I feel that when we post on this group, we should be as courteous to each other as we would be if we met in person.

This Group has always impressed me with its friendliness, helpfulness, and caring attitude, and over the almost three years that I have been posting I feel I have made real friends. As in any group there are some people on your wavelength and some who are not, some with opposing views to your own and some you agree with, but everyone deserves to be treated with respect.

So please can we return to.....well, just common courtesy.

-- Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) Answering both this post and the one that followed close on its heels.

Hear, hear, Sally! :)

It just seems to be so much easier for people (me included) to be nasty when they post IF that's the way they are feeling about the topic at hand. It's really ever so much more effective -- but not quite as easy -- to be polite and courteous when you are giving someone a piece of your mind or a "dressing down". Not only that, it doesn't give others any "fuel" to use against you in a response. CiaoMeow >^;;^<

PAX, Tia Mary

there are other newsgroups for that discussion ...why not take it there? i cant imagine 'any of us' are innocent. i have quilts waiting to be designed, no time for this. cheers jeanne

I congratulate your observations but I suspect it will not make you many friends here no matter how accurate you may be.

In response to another's question "what is 'he' doing in OUR group", I should need to remind you this is a public and un moderated group. Anyone can 'join', no credentials or invitations are required. However, there are certain rules that apply to all Newsgroups, that is it is common courtesy that contributions are on topic. It is no exaggeration to observe their are many so called 'regulars' who contribute who are discourteous in that respect.

I observe that this group has been corrupted by the 'regulars' by the introduction of so much off topic chit chat that it only has a passing resemblance to a 'Quiting' group. All this 'off topic' stuff could be dealt with by emails and the posts regarding 'prayers' for those that are unwell are simply pathetic. Exactly what good do your for 'prayers' do? This is rhetorical, no answer required please. Your beliefs are your personal business and should not be imposed upon others.

With respect to my specific contribution concerning the embarrassing praise of a down right hypocrite (Steve Irwin) who sold himself as a conservationist but made his fortune baiting animals, even to the extent of using his own son as bait (now how much more contemptible can that be) which brought him even more 'fame' and publicity and no doubt adoration by the unthinking.

I do however apologise for falling into the trap of posting to an off-topic thread, I really should and do know better.

Then again, Steve Irwin had could just be the type of personality typical to be a "real Aussie larrikin". I wouldn't be surprised if practically every Australian family, particularly those who live in the outback or on farms, and perhapes even every Australian community, has its own 'Crocodile Man.' Irwin clearly took a lot of risks but television encouraged him to do that and paid him BIG bucks for it. Who here would turn down BIG BUCKS doing something they loved?

And, he spent a lot of those big bucks buying up huge tracks of land to turn into wild life sanctuaries. Meaning, he saved animal habitat; something I'll likely not be able to afford to do in my lifetime.

IMHO Steve Irwin=92s death showed how some wildlife programs have become dangerously =93voyeuristic=94 and =93gladitorial=94 to attract viewers. = But they are actually just a stepping stone away from any other TV "reality show."

-Irene=20

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--Mae West=20

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I am *extremely* reluctant to agree with anything either Mr. Thompson or Sparky have posted here (because I strongly disagree with them about Steve Irwin), but given the way I personally have been targeted for vicious *personal* attacks each time I've pointed out that this is a public message board and it's unwise to post deeply personal information, I have to say they have a point. Much as it galls me to write that.

OK so I won't go into my beliefs.... but suffice to say the purpose of prayer is different things to different people, and serves different purposes depending on your religion. Thus it really cannot be answered from one perspective....everyone here may have a different answer, and, Edward, they would all be right.

Marie

I agree with you but this newsgroup is not the place. If anyone wants to post this type of message there surely is an appropriate Newsgroup for that.

This newsgroup indulges in an elaborate fantasy that it's a quilting frame where they can -- and often do -- talk about anything. Trying to convince them otherwise is futile; believe me, I've been viciously attacked for it myself. I hang around for the useful information, but I haven't considered this a friendly group since those attacks and the discovery that some regular posters use more than one screen name -- one to be little Ms. Betty Crocker, and the others to post nastygrams without hurting Betty Crocker's reputation. I can *prove* this is going on, and believe me, the next time one of them goes after me, I'm posting the headers to prove it. How widespread this practice is, I don't know, but I have the goods on some of them.

Rose, your post disheartens me. That attitude of "I can get them if they go after me" is a very sad one. I'm sorry that this is what your time spent on here has come to.

With respect to being unfriendly, I can do nothing but agree. When I first found the group I posted a question on a particular piece of equipment and received a very hostile and uncalled for response from one of the 'regulars'. I then posted a complaint and then received a many similarly hostile responses from other so called regulars, perhaps they were the same person, as you indicate.

Anyway all one has to do is to scan the messages each day and likely as many as 25% are off topic and of the others 75% are of a personal nature and more suited to emails than posting in a public news group. Very occasionally something useful and original will appear and it is solely for this reason that I scan it each day. This Newsgroup has more the characteristics of a select Social Club and is largely useless for anyone with an interest in Quilting.

It would not be a 'stretch' to characterize many of the ';regulars' as clannish and particularly unpleasant.