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I guess nobody thought to tell that to our coastal aboriginal people, who served and cooked almost exclusively with cedar. In fact even today the famous "planked salmon" dish, served in many 5 star restaurants is cooked and served on, guess what, "Cedar".

Regards. James Barley.

Be that as it may, I suspect the OP may not like the flavor the cedar oils will impart.

Just because the Indians did it, it doesn't make it right (or best, or preferable).

And to continue, "just because you don't think it's a good idea", also doesn't make it right, or best, etc, etc. I would tend to cast my faith along with the worlds "top chefs" when it comes to the food and cedar issue, rather then "Mark Who" Enjoy your evening

James Barley...

Wayne Take a look at my web site under "preparing green wood"

will take you through preparing the wood and roughing the bowl.

Ah, must be a feller who also doesn't eat (or drink) corn, spuds, tomatoes, maple syrup, squash, chocolate, coffee, cranberries, turkey, venison, pumpkin, jerky, use tobacco, believe in rotating crops, irrigation, democracy, public works projects, women's rights, slavery or taking scalps. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in every culture...careful you don't paint with too broad a brush.

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his full quote |> Be that as it may, I suspect the OP may not like the flavor | |>the cedar oils will impart. | | | |>Just because the Indians did it, it doesn't make it right | |>(or best, or preferable). |

He was just reacting to the previous post and saying that most people would not like the taste on a everyday basis. Planked fish is one thing but cedar is a STRONG spice not used very often. (ever?)

I think a set of bowls and a few salmon planks would be a great NW gift.

You just can't be thin skinned on usnet most hurt feelings are just misunderstandings and bad choice of words with the wrong intent inserted.

All I thought he was saying is that the people receiving the gift may not like cedar salad :) maybe they may prefer Italian or French. :)

[Note: I'm aware that coffee didn't originate here. My mistake, I sometimes list it in with cocoa, for some inexplicable reason, as originating here .]

Anyhow, like cooking on/in/with cedar, they are all aspects, characteristics or products of various American Indian cultures (North, Central and South American, of course), introduced to the Euros..(well, the Euros knew about slavery, of course and had forgotten what the Greeks taught them about democracy, but there are bound to be some overlaps. )

Point is, while you may or may not agree with something a particular culture does, doesn't necessarily make >you< "right", either, "rightness" being utterly subjective in many cases. There may also be things about said culture that you (generic "you") don't know, too.

(IOW, The implied swipe at using things of an Indian origin irked me a bit.)

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Chuck wrote: :>> :>> Ah, must be a feller who also doesn't eat (or drink) corn, spuds, :>> tomatoes, maple syrup, squash, chocolate, coffee, cranberries, turkey, :>> venison, pumpkin, jerky, use tobacco, believe in rotating crops, :>> irrigation, democracy, public works projects, women's rights, slavery :>> or taking scalps. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in every :>> culture...careful you don't paint with too broad a brush.

: Anyhow, like cooking on/in/with cedar, they are all aspects, : characteristics or products of various American Indian cultures : (North, Central and South American, of course), introduced to the : Euros..

I don't think the Indians were the first to invent irrigation, democracy, or public works projects. And I would think the agricultural societies in Europe would have been rotating crops, although I'm not utterly positive.

You can also add potatoes as one of the plants original to the Americas.

-- Andy Barss

Fallowing is even written into Jewish law.

Then there's that other great "gift" to Europeans - tobacco.

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And in fact there was crop rotation all over the world, and not all Indians rotated their crops. Indeed, their is evidence that many groups exhausted their soil, then moved on to other areas.

Public works projects were common to the ancient Egyptians, too.

My point wasn't that all of these things were >unique< to Indian societies, but that they had been done that way by Indians, as a counter to the original statement about things being done the "Indian way."

(See first quote)

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and reservation casinos.

Back to the group topic, anyone know if American Indians turned wood?

_____ American Association of Woodturners Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon _____

Carved, but as the wheel was unknown....

really?

_____ American Association of Woodturners Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon _____

Yes, really. Consider for a moment their use of the "travois"

James.