Oneway 2436 or VB-36

I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am = considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering = the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with = tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? = Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

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Lawrence Day
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Reply to
David Wade

A little commercial announcement here -- have you considered a Stubby? And if not, why?

Bill

David Wade wrote:

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Bill Rubenstein

Hi Lawrence

I was wondering why you'd consider anything other than a Oneway, it's the best there is. IMO, and no I don't sell them or have any financial interest in them.

Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo

moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a Oneway

2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks
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l.vanderloo

moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a Oneway

2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks
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robo hippy

if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably should look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able to start with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers and adjust a bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. There are some other large capacity lathes if you hunt around for them. the other note, is that if you are mostly turning outboard, why buy a oneway? get something that does't have the ways and stuff that you won't be using

Reply to
William Noble

I looked at the specs on the Stubby but it appears (unless I'm reading wrong) that the Stubby 750 will not handle a piece that is 20+ inches in diameter and 20+ inches long.

Reply to
Lawrence Day

I will most likely be turning over the bed to start (a 24" diameter blank is pretty large, the VB has a 26" capacity with the tailstock attached and the Oneway has a 24" capacity over the ways) but like the idea of a large outboard area to do larger pieces as my experience grows with larger work.

One of my concerns with the Stubby and VB is getting service/parts in North America. I understand that the Stubby was not imported for several years and know little about the VB's track record on service/parts availability

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Lawrence Day

I've been in lust with the Robust since I saw the first ad for it a couple years ago

Reply to
Ralph E Lindberg

It sounds as if you have not yet turned those 20" diameter by 20" long vessels. If you had you'd see that there is not a lot of fun in them, they really beat you up, and they don't usually sell for an amount to make them worthwhile turning projects, at least if money is an issue at all. Further, for most of us, logs large enough to make outsized turnings are few and far between. We have a 23" bowl on the dining room table and it goes under the bed when company comes -- it is too big to be useful for anything at all. Better to make the perfect shape in the perfect piece of wood as opposed to huge.

The Stubby 750 is a 16" machine over the way and a 30" machine when you pull the way (or bed) out. You can start a 30" blank between centers, as long as it isn't also very tall. The Stubby 1000 is a 20" lathe over the way and 42" or 43" over the 'gap' which is the same length as on the

750. Further, with both machines, you don't have to deduct anything from the swing for the banjo because you can mount it on the aux bed where it is out of the way of the work and convenient for you. You can start big pieces between centers -- both for safety and for artistic reasons.

As for parts on the Stubby -- I stock pretty much everything. If you drop your headstock off the roof of a 6 story building, I can send you another and it will bolt right on to your machine. Further, many of the parts are off-the-shelf -- whenever possible. If a banjo lock fails, for instance, you can get one from me or from McMaster Carr or several other places. The electronics are all done here, by me, and are Eaton/Cutler Hammer industrial controls. Bearings are SKF or equal and standard metric parts. I stock them but so does any large bearing house. The motors are stocked here but I've never replaced one except for physical damage. The castings -- what's to go wrong? Further, there is a large and knowledgeable group of Stubby owners around, in touch pretty regularly, and able and willing to help if somebody has a problem.

If I were dropping that amount of money on a lathe, I'd want to test drive it first -- you did that with your last car or truck -- right? I'd be happy to fix you up with a Stubby owner if you are interested. Then drive the other lathes and decide which you really want.

Earlier in this thread, somebody opined that the Oneway was the best. I wonder what other lathes he's spent any time with.

Bill

Lawrence Day wrote:

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Bill Rubenstein

Sounds like my sweet spouse who looked at the first 16" bowl from the 3000 and pronounced it a "thunder mug." Got to admit, 20 would be as much as I can ever think of swinging.

Stubby is far in the future, though it would be my choice of the three under discussion.

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George

Hi Bill

/Snip/ - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /snip/

It almost sounds like you are not familiar with the Oneway lathes Bill, The real nice thing with the Oneway lathe is that with the outboard addition, you have two lathes in one, a large over the bed turning lathe and also a large outboard turning Bowl/platter lathe, where you can start a large blank between centers if wanted/needed, I added a direct link here to a Oneway lathe setup that shows you exactly the double setup I am referring to.

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Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo

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l.vanderloo

Amen. Before I turned a 12" maple bowl it sounded a reasonable size to me. After finishing it, I looked at it on the sideboard and decided it was too large for the piece. We placed it on our small pub-style dining table: it dominated the table and left little room for food serving dishes. Same thing on the coffee table. So I gave it to a friend for her birthday, only to have her say, "Gee, it's lovely. But do you possibly have anything smaller?" My daughter now uses is with her kids for popcorn while watching DVDs on TV.

20"? That's big.

Max

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Maxprop

well, the specs on the 750 say: S750 - 16" swing over bed - 30" swing with bed extended 16-34" between centers

so 16 inch swing over bed means 32 inches in diameter, and 16 to 34 inches between centers is greater than your 20 inch length - if you are planning mostly spindle turning, the oneway may be better for you, but otherwise, I would suggest you think about if the stubby might be a good choice - the one-way is "prettier" in some ways, it has a very clean line to it and beautiful finish - but if you are like me, you use a tool rather than baby it - I personally have a stubby 1000, which has a 20 inch swing over bed --- note also that on both the 750 and the 1000, you slide the bed back and get a lot more inches of radius - I bought the 1000 for the size it could swing (big enough) and the small footprint it required - if I had infinite space I might have gone for a Nichols or SeriousLathe (both of which I think are no longer in business) - but in retrospect that would have been a mistake because my desire to turn increasingly larger objects moderated over time.

oh, one more thought - if you are really really going to turn something that ends up 20 inches diameter, 20 inches long, you are probably making hollow forms, and you will want to carefully consider how your hollowing setup will work with the lathe of your choice - if you are using a captive system, check how it will fit on the lathes you are considering, for example.

Reply to
William Noble

Yes, I am familiar with the Oneway. Although I have a large shop, I would not have room for that rig. Also, by the time you buy all that, you are way over the price of a Stubby 750, I think.

Bill

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Bill Rubenstein

there are two Bills in this conversation, I'm one of them. It is just plain not true that you can "start a large blank between centers" on the oneway - Try putting a 36 inch irregular slab inboard on the oneway and tell me what happens - this is a convenient size for platters, by the way. On a Oneway you would have to mount this outboard and have the outboard turning attachments - that's fine if you can dedicate a large enough space to the lathe - I can't, I have the headstock near a wall and the tailstock near another wall - those of you with plenty of square feet can consider lathes that require a large footprint, but if you are space constrained, avoiding the need for outboard turning is very helpful.

bill n

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William Noble

Reply to
robo hippy

Hi Bill We are not talking about the space in your shop. Nor were we talking about 36" platters.

So maybe you should REREAD what you said.

YOU SAID: if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably should look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able to start with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers and adjust a bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /SNIP/

lathe, as you certainly are able to do both these things, namely start turning with the tailstock against the piece AND ALSO start between centers and adjust etc.

the other note, is that if you are mostly turning outboard, why buy a oneway? get something that does't have the ways and stuff that you won't be using

over the ways, and later he would like to turn larger pieces and liked to turn larger as his experience grew, and liked the idea of turning larger pieces outboard.

Anyway thats the way I read it, and why I said what I said. :-)))

And I still think The Oneway is the best there is, IMO.

Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo

Reply to
l.vanderloo

Hi Lawrence,

I actually considered the same comparison before I bought my 2436. I = did not buy the large outboard attachment, because I have no interest on = work of that scale. =20

Turning inboard on the 2436 is a dream as the lathe just does what I ask = of it and I can focus on the turning. =20

I replaced one speed controller - on Oneway's warranty; that was likely = due to my style of starting and stopping frequently as I had not = originally purchased the breaking resistor and that is what probably = cooked the original controller.

If I had to do it over again, I would purchase the same identical = machine. The folks in Ontario have quickly answered any questions I = have had and shipped replacement consumables quickly (I use vacuum = chucking for much of my work).

My turning skills have improved significantly with the use of this = lathe, and the vacuum chucking capability has allowed me to rework = production items which I would otherwise have had to discard.

George

"Lawrence Day" wrote in message = news:464fdbb1$0$2802$ snipped-for-privacy@roadrunner.com... I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am = considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering = the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with = tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? = Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

Reply to
George Saridakis

I actually like the oneway a lot - I'm not denigrating it - what I was responding to was what appeared to be a post saying that to turn large things, the OP wanted to buy a oneway and the outboard turning attachment - whether I was clear o4r not, my intended point was that if you want to turn larger than you can turn over the ways on a oneway, then look at the Stubby because you can turn quite a bit larger without going outboard (in fact, on a stubby you CANT go outboard). If the oneway meets your needs, its a beautiful lathe, but it's at its best when you are turning within it's design range over the ways.

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William Noble

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