Toxic wood

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:37:38 -0700, "Darren" hurled these words of wisdom into the ether:

Actually, there isn't.

This adds weight to the old adage, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." Yes, they do skin tests for allergies. However, the reaction you have to wood, whereby your skin breaks out in an irritating rash after exposure to its dust is called "contact dermatitis." With this reaction, "There are no circulatory or otherwise detectable antibodies produced."

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reasons that contact dermatitis (which is localized) is NOTindicative of an anaphylactic reaction (which is systemic and involvesthe production of histamines) are too numerous to mention, but you andanyone else who confuse the two would be doing yourselves and others afavor to do some research before you offer any medical advice. You can start here
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there is a good, layman's-terms explanation of anaphylaxis, itscauses, symptoms, prevention and treatment, including what does anddoesn't cause it. And no, I'm NOT a doctor, and I am NOT offering medical advice. The only advice I'm giving is to not give or take medical advice from anyone other than your doctor. Besides, if you go into anaphylactic shock, you WILL know it, and you won't confuse it with a little dermatitis.

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"but you and anyone else who confuse the two would be doing yourselves and others a favor to do some research before you offer any medical advice."

Wow - rough day at the office?

I can't speak for others that responded to this thread but I didn't give any medical advice. Medical advice is "take two aspirin and call me in the morning" type thing - where you are telling someone what to do in regard to medical field.

I was just deducing what seemed logical that there would be a correlation between breathing reactions (from molds etc) and your skin because that is how they test it. Someone (George) corrected me and told me that the specific test I was talking about was actually "under" the skin ... a nice polite "conversation" on what people experienced. There was no one saying "do this" or "don't do this". Also, if only "experts" posted to newsgroups, then they would be quite empty. At what point can I tell people what wood turning technique worked for me? The whole idea of newsgroups is that it allows people to share similar experiences and talk about what they did and maybe even offer an opinion on what they liked and what worked best for them, stir thought etc. It is up to the person to use common sense (I realize it isn't that common any more) and do what is best for them (just like you said "the only advice I'm giving is to not give or take medical advice from anyone other than your doctor").

I guess one advice I would give ... you might want to stay out of the alt.support.cancer type newsgroups, because there they share similar experiences and talk about what they did and offer advice on what they did and didn't like. You could be setting people straight all day long if you went to a newsgroup like that.

The funny thing - if I would have said "There SEEMS TO BE some truth to skin reaction to breathing reaction", the need to scold \ set straight would not have happened. Lesson learned on my part.

Just my 2 cents.

Darren

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:24:37 -0700, "Darren" hurled these words of wisdom into the ether:

Nope, just sounded to me like you were making a potentially dangerous, (to you or anyone who might use your anecdotal deduction as "advice"), assumption based on insufficient information. Didn't want to see you or anyone else use that deduction in making their own diagnosis or, worse yet, pass it on to someone else (not on the newsgroup) who might be inclined to.

Well, if you had said it "seemed logical," I would likely not have said anything, but what you actually said was "There is some truth to skin reaction to breathing reaction," which, you'll admit, has somewhat of a ring of authority to it.

No point getting snide about it...rememeber, I can't see your face or hear the tone of your voice to detect the implied "seems to," any more than you can see my face or hear my voice to know I'm not "scolding."

Your comment, which was wrong and might have confused someone else who didn't know better, was written _as if_ you were speaking from a position of expertise. I simply wanted to disabuse you of the notion that there was such a connection between the two.

That's true, and I'm certainly not about throttling the sharing of information and experience. (Which was not how that was presented, BTW) But in dealing with pretty well-established medical facts, it's probably not all that wise to "suppose" and "deduce" things that might cause death to the unwary or undue stress to those who have no need to stress out, and stick to the medical literature rather than anecdotal "evidence."

A whole different ball of wax, I should imagine, and far more of a range of prognosis, diagnosis and efficacy of treatment than dealing with the difference between wood allergies and anaphylaxis.

Precisely so. Which is why I was so adamant about it. But don't mistake my adamance for "scolding." I don't scold people, but I can and do get passionate when I feel something is important enough, and I thought your incorrect correlation warranted it. My apologies if you felt unduly or unfairly chastised.

Probably if I hadn't said, "... before you offer any medical advice," you wouldn't have said anything either...

; ^ )

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Chuck

Today they say "take two antidepressants and go to the ED if things get worse."

There are probably some in the group who remember when you could actually see your "own" doctor when you were sick, not just by appointment after two weeks.

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George

Ok - points well taken and no offense taken.

Darren

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Darren

=========================== George, Did you miss the R key and hit D, or is there a meaning for ED that I'm not catching?

Ken Moon Webberville, TX

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Please, it's not just a room, it's a "Department."

I deal a lot with them, so adopt their habits.

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George

That's his doctor's name, "ED"

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Chuck

Hmmm, interesting. Must be a regional thing. None around here are called EDs, rather ERs.

Max

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