wedgies

I would answer you but Moon has forbidden me from speaking to you, because you ask too many questions and/or you're a beadmaker?

LOL!

this site is a place where questions should be asked and answered... if not here, then where...??

i didn't realize that you've all allowed the bully to take over this list and dictate what you will say and to whom you'll reply...

i'd rather be a beadmaker (which i'm not) than a whimp... ..and yes, i do ask a lot of questions...

arlene

Oh now I'm a whimp, (is that worse than a wimp?) Now that you've proven you have no understanding of sarcasm, or a sense of humor, I have yet another reason to not speak to you ever again. Your punishment is to go back and reread my scathing and snarky comment.

Oh dear, there you go calling it a site. At least it's not a "board" or a "room."

Now you've gone and pissed off all the old-timers.

I'm not an old timer, but I think this is properly termed a 'group'.

a gathering place for sycophants of an individual styled 'Javahut' to genuflect and insult anyone who hasn't been ordained. But the group has been around for years, apparently. Looks like its greatest participation was pre-2000.

thank you, i stand (sit) corrected. I had assumed this was a place where people could ask questions and have them answered. I didn't realize it was such an ego trip for some. It's too bad...I've had a number of people contact me off list saying how intimidated they were such that they couldn't ask questions. I don't understand why people need to put others down in order to build themselves up.

it's a sad commentary on life in the USA..

ar.

Funny thing. Most of those pre-2000 posters aren't posting on any of the other web-based forums. Maybe they acquired other interests? One of them is probably institutionalized....Eh, Mikey?

BTW, Gary....personally speaking, I don't genuflect to "anyone". The individual 'Javahut' that you disparage has forgotten more about the art and craft of stained glass than you will ever learn. And knowing him as well as I do, on a personal level, he could give a shit less what you or anyone else thinks. He is a nationally reknown authority on antique lamps and windows. He has done new windows that you could only do in your wildest dreams. I think you owe him an apology.

As far as asking and answering questions are concerned...people who have a legitimate question generally always get several reasonable answers from people who actually DO glass for a living. Where threads devolve into flame wars is usually when some self-serving nitwit begins to advocate owning a wet belt sander instead of a grinder or insisting that no-longer available soldering tips are the only way one can be a professional artisan.

And then, there is one dimwit who claims to have once owned a glass studio and is now apparently resuming the craft after a 20 year hiatus. Asking questions that someone in their third week of a beginner's class would know the answer to. Repeatedly. And always "taking", never giving back. And then criticizing the replies that are offered, and/or the tone of the person who took time to give an answer.

So, if you don't like the way things are....don't let the door hit you on the way out. Or offer something besides criticism.

I want to be Javahut's biatch too. Dennis Brady is a nitwit. Bead makers are nitwits. Javahut is da Cocker Spaniel shit.

That's a good start.

What kind of motorcycle do you ride?

These usenet places tend to become little clubs dominated by the ones that participate. Friendships and wars happen all the time. Check out the techie, political and religion places... you can't believe how nasty it gets. Sure questions are asked and answered, but no one has to do anything if they don't want to. Newsgroups are also resided by trolls and crusty old know it alls. Lots of info can be gleaned if you're smart enough to pick your spots. If you ask 10 questions a week, you're gong to get kicked around a bit just by the sheer nature of peope getting annoyed that you don't use Google. Please don't get defensive, just ignore or killfile those you don't want to read. This is a very valuable resource for all of us.

-- JK Sinrod

True.

Otherwise how would you ever have known about 900*F Weller Tips and what an incomptent slow-assed, bad-soldering artisan you are? :

Ouch burned again. Damned slow 700*F hobby tips.

-- JK Sinrod

I ride no motocycle at this time. I must obtain a motocycle for riding. But I don't know which kind to obtain, and then ride, to be Javahut kind-of-guy.

Get back to us when you get your training wheels off.