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Interesting BUT.....

First, I was a little baffled by his calling it a kiln, instead of a torch.

Second, assuming it IS supposed to be a torch, it's working at a MUCH lower temperature than most conventional torches out there......which would mean it's slow as hell to melt anything. 1600-2200 is barely at/above slumping temp for most glass. I'm not even going to contemplate getting boro to move.

The design is interesting but not quite "revolutionary". Looks a lot like the torches the Japanese have been using for many years.

-- KarenK Desert Dreamer Designs

That's pretty interesting - although I am not sure I would like my flame to be enclosed. Does it allow for really detailed stringer work?

Oh, yes, there is that temp thing. It's cooler than a Hot Head, and I am used to working on a minor, so I would likely have to re-learn everything. It is an interesting design though. And that *kiln* thing did confuse me for a few minutes.

as tought by Winston Doull, who invented the Volcano, a kind of very open kiln, gasheatead, no need for oxygen. I must say it works, though of course I cannot compare it to a normal torch. Anyone worked with both?>

never heard of it -- though an interesting proposition. Basically its a techno version of what they use in INDIA to make glass beads. drawbacks I see - no oxygen! Some of the colors in both the Moretti and Boro lines will turn BLACK or mis-colored if you don't have enough oxygen in the flame. I'd say this has very limited range of use... ok for basic wound beads... but I doubt it would be very handy for doing sculptural stuff.

Cheryl of DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

Is that the same torch/kiln you used in class?

Tina

Op Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:10:23 GMT schreef "Christina Peterson" :

Yes, it is and it worked nicely with Moretti glass. The flame does not go inside the kiln so there is oxygen left, and I could see that the very precise use of stringers in the flame would be a problem. If the bead is held above the kiln it will stay hot for a while because of the heat coming out of it. To answer some questions.

Bart you can send email to me using mendelson-at-mendelson-dot-nl

Answer to myself? Must be getting strange in the head. Shirley asked, through private mail, for a scan of what I made. Thought I post the link here so you can all agree about my lack of talent...............

Bart - What's to be harsh about? You melted glass! How cool is that? It is so much fun, isn't it?! I have my first batch of less-than-perfect beads on a string and plan to keep them forever because they are so amazing to me. My teacher has her firsts strung over the workbench, and they look a lot like mine and yours. I know with time, mine will be round when I want, oval when I want and I'm getting excited just thinking about when I'll be able to get to a torch again! Isn't it grand?

Hi Bart - those look a lot like my firsts. But I am very fond of my firsts because they are a momento of the week I was introduced to a new passion. The volcano burner sounds interesting - I passed the information on to a friend in Finland who is exploring lampwork after taking a class in Finland with Leah Swartz.

susan in canada

No harshness at all! How exciting for you to get into lampworking! Great newbie beads, Bart. :)

Thought I post the link here so you can all agree about my lack of talent.............?>>>

heee hee.. Hey we're always nice to beginners! I can say this -- well if you were in India - you'd be right at home with the native beadmakers....

I can see the effect of the no oxygen problem in many of those beads -- and a lot of "boiling" -- (i.e. why you have so much scum and bubbles in many).....

Even a Hot Head would give you better results -- buy a minor burner...at least....

Cheryl of DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

Op 14 Oct 2003 16:56:40 GMT schreef snipped-for-privacy@aol.combeads (Cheryl):

What do Indian beadmaker get payed for an hour of work? Do I want to be right at home with that?

Boiling, that's a different thing. Is it a matter of over heating? Does it happen more easily with transparent glass?

A minor burner would not give me the same oxygen problems, but at an added cost of bying oxygen, right?

I'll try to answer at least one question.

Basically it's overheating. You can see your glass start to bubble at times. I did it today, actually.

It does to me.

I would suggest an oxygen concentrator. You'll recoup your money big time over having the oxygen.

Hey! You melted glass and you had a blast, right? It's all about PROCESS over PRODUCT. That's when the magic happens. I made a bracelet out of my first beads, and I keep hanging over my work table when I'm not wearing it. I love those beads, and am so glad that I kept them!

Keep up the good work, Bart!

Yep. Everything Starlia said. Including the fact that I boiled some glass today, too. LOL! It's SO easy with some of the colors.

Yep - the Moretti transparent aquas all boil easily, and some of the transparent greens do as well. Rubino oro (gold pink) boils a lot unless your flame is cool.

What do Indian beadmaker get payed for an hour of work? Do I want to be right at home with that?>>>>

not much and no... LOL

I made a bracelet out of my first beads, and I keep hanging over my work table when I'm not wearing it. I love those beads, and am so glad that I kept them!>>>

yeah - I forgot to mention - I have a BIG STRAND of beads I made in my first month of beadmaking - save them --- LOL Wanna all see my early beads - just for fun and giggles????

they are strung on fake leather-like cord - I wear them just "as is" sometimes

- in the summer - because it strikes you as a fun summer color necklace...

Cheryl of DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

Your beads remind me of things done deliberately in "Primitive style". You may even prefer to develope some of those qualities, whether or not you choose to do the "fine" stuff, too.

Tina