OT - Advertising ideas help!!

I've been mulling over some ideas for new advertising for my eBay store business lately. Right now I send out emails on my own mailing list and several other bead group lists as well as posting my info here. Some of my new business comes from word of mouth from satisfied customers. So far this type of 'advertising' has worked well for me. After all, it's cheap (okay, free!).

I've thought about putting ads in some of the bead magazines - either classifieds or small display ads in the back. And I can put a small classified ad on the Bead & Button website for $10/month. I've hesitated to do so, mostly because I don't have a specialty area and am a really small operation - just my spare bedroom! LOL!! But the business has grown a great deal in the past year, from 150 items listed to 400-500 listed at any one time, and now I'm adding TierraCast to the line as well as listing more and more Czech glass as I find new stuff I like.

So my question is this - do you think it would be worth it to spend money on advertising?? And if so, what do you think a good *small* display ad should look like OR what should my classified ad say?? I know there's a bunch of great business minds on this group, so have at it!

Thanks in advance -

Mj

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Mj
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My vote would be for a small display ad:

Halsey Trading Company Tierracast Pewter * Czech & Other Fine Glass Beads Hilltribe Silver * Pearls

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Barbara Forbes-Lyons

Thanks for replying, Barbara. I like your idea, except I only sell through eBay now. I set up my website years ago and attempted to sell in both venues for a time and found it impossible to coordinate it all on my own. So, my contact would be my ebay store URL and I feel funny putting that in an ad.

And I didn't mention that I'm scared to death of doing this because:

A. No one would respond and I would have wasted my money OR B. Too many people would respond and I'd be swamped with too much business for one person to handle!!

LOL!! Talk about being conflicted!

Mj

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Mj

can you make

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redirect to your eBay store?

Or make it a placeholder. Something like

"Hi. I am Marjean. I sell x,y,z. To buy, please visit my eBay store " (the here being a clickable link).

Then on the side, you can do things like have a page that describes what they are (what is Bali. What is Czech beads). Links page. "Who am I" page. Email me page.

Just a suggestion... Mary

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meijhana

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "meijhana" :

]Or make it a placeholder. Something like ] ]"Hi. I am Marjean. I sell x,y,z. To buy, please visit my eBay store ]" (the here being a clickable link). ] ]Then on the side, you can do things like have a page that describes what ]they are (what is Bali. What is Czech beads). Links page. "Who am I" ]page. Email me page. ] ]Just a suggestion...

VERY good ones!

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vj

Excellent ideas!! Thanks!!

I won't be doing any of it until I get back from Tucson, but this has helped clarify how I could handle it!

Mj

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Mj

First off, I agree that if you want to focus on your eBay store, you should have your website point there. It would just make advertising easier, LOL ;o)

I've done a lot of banner ads for my non-bead related online biz, and it DOES help out a lot. I can't say I have ever been so overwhelmed that I just couldn't handle things, but there were weeks that I knew I was really pushing it. Right now, I am broke broke, all my income is going to just keeping us fed and warm, so I can't afford to put up my banners. I have one up at an auction house that caters to my specific "field" (cloth diapers, if you were wondering ;o), but that doesn't really bring in a lot of traffic. I think if you go the banner route, you have to put it at a few places for it to be really effective. Customers will see your banner at one place, and then another...eventually, they will click. Find sites that relate to your biz, like JustBeads, maybe some tutorial sites (I think I saw banners at polymerclaycentral.com....you could snag those people that need accent beads for their polyclay creations). These places would probably be cheaper than the big magazines. BUT $10/mo is a great price for a big magazine's website; I would DEFINITELY do that one.

Am I making any sense? Sometimes it seems I talk myself in circles......

Another thing that I regularly do is send out REAL mail flyers. I go through my records and collect the addresses of the people that have ordered from me in the past (the ones I want to order from me again, anyway). Then I print out a little half-sheet flyer with a sappy sweet "thank you" sentiment, and a small coupon for a future purchase (never more than 10%, which equates to about $2 on the average cloth diaper order;o). I do this about twice a year, and get a really good response each time :o)

There's a couple other things that I've done in the past, don't know if they would be helpful to you or not....I have exchanged stacks of business cards with someone that has a related business, but not directly competition. She puts one of my biz cards in each of her orders (along with her own biz card, of course), and I put one of hers in with my orders. In my case, I found a couple of people to do this with, and it worked really well, and was FREE, hehehe;o) The other thing that I've done, and I know a lot of people do, is a co-op of sorts for a print ad. Get a group of people together that want to advertise in the same publication, and split the cost of the ad ('cause they are REALLY expensive, usually). The ones I've seen were just a listing...like, say you have 3 people join in. The ad would look like this:

Person #1's Biz name & blurb website, contact info Person #2's Biz name & blurb website, contact info Person #3's Biz name & blurb website, contact info

Because it's not a huge flashy pictorial ad, it doesn't draw in TOO MANY people, but does bring some traffic, and it also makes you more well know, and helps establish you as a legit business (not that you aren't, but anything that makes you look *bigger* in a customers eyes is going to bring you more traffic).

And, a sidenote, but somewhat related....the bigger your business *LOOKS*, the better. It makes it easier to stand behind your ordering and refund policies, and your turnaround time. I'm going through a wretched thing right now with a lady that is raking me over the coals because she was unhappy with her order. In early December. And she's just NOW contacting me about it. I've quoted my policy (7 days), but she's throwing it in my face that I'm just a stay-at-home mom that sells things, and that I should be able to be more flexible, but that I must be a terrible PERSON because I am not. She knows if she were to wait a month to contact, say, Babies R Us about something, she'd be S.O.L., but she expects more from me, because she knows I am smaller business.

*WHEW!* LOL Sorry about that rant there at the end, but I hope you can find SOMETHING useful in this post ;o)
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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Kyla" :

]And, a sidenote, but somewhat related....the bigger your business *LOOKS*, ]the better. It makes it easier to stand behind your ordering and refund ]policies, and your turnaround time. I'm going through a wretched thing ]right now with a lady that is raking me over the coals because she was ]unhappy with her order. In early December. And she's just NOW contacting ]me about it. I've quoted my policy (7 days), but she's throwing it in my ]face that I'm just a stay-at-home mom that sells things, and that I should ]be able to be more flexible, but that I must be a terrible PERSON because I ]am not. She knows if she were to wait a month to contact, say, Babies R Us ]about something, she'd be S.O.L., but she expects more from me, because she ]knows I am smaller business.

very good point!

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vj

Yes, you made lots of sense and gave me even more to think about. Thanks!!

Mj

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Mj

Yes, but I know that if I saw an eBay only ad in a mag, I might ignore it. Having a web site give you a little more credibility, IMO. Too, you can update your website with pictures of the stock found in your eBay store. It becomes a teaser AND you can put a hit counter on your web site to track the click-through biz (lets you see if the advertising is really working).

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Barbara Forbes-Lyons

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "roxan" :

]I hate banners I click out of them as soon as they come up.

i've got my browser set not to show them at all.

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Mj,

Not sure how helpful this is, but FYI I really like your eBay store because I am specifically looking for leaves and flowers. You have quite a good number of these items. There are also a bunch of other sub-specialties on your site.

Once I was there I bought a bunch of other things, and noticed other things I'm sure to come back for in the future.

If you can find a clean way to bring up specialty items in your ad, you might be able to grab somebody's eye who otherwise glance your add over in the bunches of bead-related ads on a bead magazine site.

marisa2

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Marisa Exter

I think she was talking about the ads at the top/bottom of a webpage, not a popup banner...

Mary

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meijhana

yeah, not the popups. Just the banners :o)

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Kyla

TOTALLY! Back in November, I was desperately looking for leaves, a good variety, in one place. I didn't know of your eBay stuff, and then I SAW all those leaves you have after the show was over,a nd really kicked myself for not coming and asking here! ;o)

Anyway, point is, I agree that highlighting special stuff would be a great idea :o)

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Kyla" :

]yeah, not the popups. Just the banners :o)

ah - okay.

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Thank you, Marisa. I deliberately let all my listings expire at the end of the year so I could completely redo the categories in the store. eBay was kind enough to increase the number we could have and I was getting too many items in one category for people to be able to browse them all comfortably. It seems to have helped quite a bit - you're not the first one to comment on it.

And thanks to everyone else who responded with great ideas for my advertising problem. Lots of good stuff to consider before I take the plunge!!

Mj

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Mj

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