outdoor glass

Copper foil is for girly-boys who make toy boats.

Real men use stretched lead.

Let go of your little pee-pee and try to focus on the question at hand.

Are you telling us that the cheesy giftware on your website is your own production, or not? A simple "I made it" or "I bought it" will be sufficent.

Dennis strictly adheres to the 10th step of Bullshiter's Anonymous. " When I am caught in another lie, promptly change the subject or find someone else to blame."

Use whatever you want. Keep in mind that weather can play havoc on copper foiled work, zinc work or lead work. Copper foiled work can become dull and end up having a crusty buildup on the solder. Pretty much the same with lead. I've seen some zinc and copper came panels that appear to hold up pretty well. The copper came work gets a nice dark patina after a couple of years. If you keep the work clean and even keep a good coat of wax on it, it should look good for a long time.

Wow, an actual answer to the question. I have decided to block brady and moonraker instead of just skipping their posts as I have in the past.

Mike, I agree; it's great that neoglassic actually responded with useful information. I may also follow your example and block brady and moonraker. Kerry

Heard there is a new artificial reef off Gainesville, FL

I'll take that as "I bought this grotesque crap."

Can you teach me how to solder a 12" bead in one second flat? I really want to know how to anneal a 3" thick casting in less than 3 hours, too. Got any pointers on how to keep the sun from sucking leaded windows right out of the house? Maybe I could get some business tips on how to sell products I don't own and sit on people's money for months at a time? Damn, you've got so much to offer that I wouldn't know where to begin.

OK...I'll sign up as soon as you post the verifiable names of some of your many success stories.

thanks for the good answers, and you other 2 shake hands lol, after you wash them that is

I've done all with no problems over 25 years. If you live long enough to see it, zinc breaks down and pits and corrodes terribly after 50-60 years or so. Skinny lead line copperfoil with no support or protection may literally fall apart. Lead with no support may buckle depending on the design. All will be fine in your lifetime if done properly. The real reason we use insulated glass as protection today, is that in the olden days oil was .05 cents a gallon, and we used to open our windows if it got too hot. Now that it's close to $3 a gallon, we don't like heat loss.

Lead lasts longer than zink imo, but it needs a good frame, like wood.