Pre-fuse glass cleaning

What do you use to clean glass pre-firing?

Is soap and water enough?

Reply to
Moonraker
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Alcohol and a lint free towel.

Reply to
neoglassic

Budweiser and a napkin?

Reply to
Moonraker

Works for me! Try Grey Goose and an old bar towel..

Reply to
Javahut

I think that's how Sinrod caught his kiln on fire...trying to flambé glass?

Reply to
Moonraker

Yes.

Jack

Reply to
nJb

Clean glass? Why? Whatever is on there will burn off over 1000... unless it's mud.

Reply to
glassman

You're joking, right?

Jack

Reply to
nJb

Guess you haven't seen fused on fingerprints.

Andy

Reply to
neoglassic

He fuses parts of his building in !!!

Reply to
Javahut

I've heard that if you close the lid on the kiln it tends to contain the heat and not involve the rest of the building in a flambé. Ashes and parts of burnt buildings included in the art glass tend to ruin the asthetics.

Reply to
Moonraker

So, can we put you in the "don't clean your glass" column?

Reply to
Moonraker

So, which is it? Leave the cutter oil on the glass or wash it off? Why would you "demonstrate" leaving oil and fingerprints on the glass to newbies when you apparently personally wash the glass?

Work on your credibility a bit, here.

Reply to
Moonraker

Let's see? You actually waste a student's time to "prove" the theory that fingerprints burn off? You mean to tell us that a simple comment from your learned, experienced, all-knowing self wouldn't be good enough? That your students don't believe you either, so you have to prove it? WTF?

Most of the myths in the stained glass business that need de-bunking center around the idea that you have a clue what you are talking about.

The (dis)information you promulgate is about as useful as a tube of anal lube in a nunnery.

Reply to
Moonraker

I've slumped float glass which I had marked with a black marker pen assuming it would burn off but you could clearly see afterwards where the black marker had been. Obviously some of the chemicals in the ink or their breakdown products stayed on the surface of the glass leaving a visible witness.

Reply to
David Billington

Black Sharpie burns off clean, except when it doesn't. Best to clean it off if it will be a problem.

Jack

Reply to
nJb

No really mud won't burn off...

Reply to
glassman

Talking about your students... how aboput addressing this past post of mine?

OK continuing our civil discussion...... teaching business is fine (I was a stockbroker & financial planner in another life too), but how many basement bandits have you personally taught, that are in business today making a living with their glasswork? Not burgers, not shoes, not snowblowers, GLASS? I've tought thousands as well, but can count on one hand the ones making money with it. Do you promise a high percentage of success in GLASS?

So what do you charge Canadian folks to learn how to make a living in the glass business? How many classes for how many hours, at what fee? Not general business courses that can be given anywhere. GLASSWORK.

First of all you should ask why you have so many pissed off instead of assuming. By the way, retail supplies makes up less than 10% of my gross, so I'm hardly a retailer in the strictest sense. As far as I know only 1 of the others here is a genuine retailer. Secondly, I suggest that my students should buy from me, because I'm there to help them, when they help support my business. Should I teach them to operate a saw they bought from someone else? Would you give advice to students that were not paying you for supplies & services? If so how do you make money? How different is that than what I do?

Again you should ask before you assume. I have several basement artisans in my area. Some of which I taught. We share supplies, advice, labor, and even jobs on occassion. My kind of customers deal with me because I have a storefront. They are more than willing to pay me for the stability a storefront gives. I deal in perceived value for my work.

Thanks for the heads up on the market prediction. What do you charge for your classes, and what percentage of your students have an up and running glass business after your 30 years of teaching is what I'd like to know? As to your defensive remarks, you are again mistaking concern and commaradary for whining. I don't think that 1 of the regulars here is living in a shanty and starving. We all seem to be doing just fine doing it our way. Have you no interest in ever asking any of us the keys to our success? I may bitch about the weather, but I do adapt by wearing the right clothes. There are many glass industry folks that I don't like, but none of them goes out of their way to insult the entire industry! Dennis you very effectively have made yourself a target. For a smart guy, it really puzzles me.

Reply to
glassman

Speaking of myths....how did that container load of glass to Finland work out for you?

Reply to
Moonraker

Hey lying toad boy . . . found those quotes yet? You know, the ones you lied about. 1100 pieces huh! Wow. The entire art world has been enriched by your crappy banal simplistic beginner stained glass pattern fused dreck, not to mention those fantastic single layer Spectrum Baroque slumped sushi plates. Incroyable! Hey, BTW, I thought you said sushi plates were dead?

Lemme know when you find those quotes. After all, it's only, (what's left of) your reputation. Brock

Reply to
Brock

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