I had a littl freeware program once for pricing stain glass projects but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the internet. Does anyone know where I can find it? It priced on number of pieces, difficulty and overall size.
Credit should be given where it is due, and that is a little handy program, for me, I use it, plus a small fudge factor, but we will talk about that when we have lunch one day.
And yes Steve, works in most platforms, send Bart a personal thanks, as you can see, he likes to get messages, and to have people hear his music...
It doesn't work on MacIntosh, or Linux, or FreeBSD, or scores of other OS's... unless you first download, install, and run a DOS emulator... assuming there is one for whatever platform is under consideration. DOS emulators are notoriously finicky as to which programs they'll run though. The previously mentioned dosbox-0.63, for instance, will not run Geoworks, the DOS-based "OS" where I used to draw up stained glass patterns, used to keep databases of bevels and completed work, and a spreadsheet for pricing work.
Well, I haven't done any stained glass in about 8 years, or even any beads or kiln work for about 6 years, but after this next move, I hope to get back into it, especially the kiln work.
I only downloaded Bart's pricing utility to see if it might be one of those that would actually run in the emulator.
I do all my coffee pricing by spreadsheet, so I think that's probably the way I'll go for stained glass as well. Spreadsheets are amazingly versatile things, though somewhat platform dependent if you pick the "wrong" platform. It is looking like Open Office will be around for quite some time though. I started out with some spreadsheets on Star Office 5.1 in '98 that still work in Open Office 2.0.
The most platform-INdependent way to do those sorts of variable-in, result-out type utilities is via the web. The beauty of php (and cgi in general) is that the program resides on the server, so only the input needs to be uploaded, and only the results need to be downloaded (though you can make it as simple or as ornate as you like.) No program downloads, installs, or platform worries. For instance, these little utilities can be run on about any web browser in existence, JavaScript or not, cookies or not, even text browsers:
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I do note that Bart's web server doesn't have php capability, so he'd have talk his web host into it, or find another if he was even interested in revamping glascost for the web.
Original statement, "Works under a particular DOS emulator under Unix/Linux as well," was meant simply as a helpful bit of info. I guess you didn't see it that way. Hopefully, people using Linux or Unix did. Hopefully, Bart did.
Steve, I know your a Linux/Unix guy, hell, I do wish I had the time to learn more about it, all I was getting at was that Bart came up with something no one else, as far as I know, has done, and comparing it to the SWAG method I have used in my studio for 28 years, is pretty accurate, sometimes too accurate, it over prices what I feel the market will bear, in MY Area.
That was the ONLY point I was trying to make... give a guy/gal credit when he /she has it coming, it doesn't happen often enough, especially here.
Thanks for the info, nice to know. Yeah, I know if you go at it with Java or Perl etc., it should be doable on line but that would mean me having to shell out to access the cgi directories and I'm not about to blow my beer budget just so somebody else can leech :)
Cheers,
Bart.
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Something like this? (no cgi-bin directories, just a php-enabled server):
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When I used a spreadsheet for pricing, the math wasabout identical. I suppose now I'll have to do a web calculator based on what I can recall of that spreadsheet... it had more "fill in the blank" options,and did areas for circles, ovals, etc.
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