I have been following this thread, and no one has mentioned the problem we men face if we do needlework etc. in public. No one takes any notice if a woman does, but a man!!!!! A few years ago, another couple, Jill and I were flying back from Miami. The other husband had his knitting, and I was crocheting. We sat next to each other in the waiting area of Miami International Airport, while our wives were reading. We nearly caused a riot. Huge numbers of people came over to see the spectacle. Its not easy being a man, and doing this sort of thing in public. Definitely discrimination on the basis of sex (tongue in cheek).
We listened to the radio while doing the canning. And my grandmother was fair about it, 1 hour per person, so sometimes there was rock as well as classical and the 70's version of easy listening, 101 Strings. NOW - my grandmother really liked Queen and if there was a Queen song on (or better the half album side), it would stay on that station until it was over.
Cheryl Isaak ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with
No I don't !!! I'm one of the few around here who would not care if I never saw chocolate again. I do like white chocolate but even that is not high on my list. Now if you want to list up crab, lobster, fresh (not farmed) salmon, then you're talking. So you can quit running lol
Cheryl Isaak ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with
Sigh times have changed haven't they ? However, I admit I am part of the change so can't complain. I think my happiness level is as good as my grandmothers was but our lives are light years apart.
In an Exhibition , in our Japanese Myseum [ Haifa has an Authentic one] , about Geishas , it was told that Originally Men were Geishas , and only at end of 18th cent women also started to be Well educated to be Talking Partners for the Rich. mirjam
I didn't see the film, but thoroughly enjoyed the book. I read it on my trip to Japan, so things made some sense to me. Mike and Aya said there was quite an uproar in Japan about the movie. They used Chinese actors and actresses, which greatly upset the Japanese.
Incidentally we went to a ceremony in Tokyo, the Golden Dragon Dance, and there was a "float" containing about 8 geisha. Apparently a couple of them were *real* geisha from Kyoto.
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I can understand why they would be upset - not a scrap of Japan in a movie so very Japanese lol
The real Geisha are an expensive, cultivated taste. My father frequently was entertained at geisha parties when contracts were up for renewal and he said it was years before he understood the funny little games and ceremonies that cost a small fortune.
Business was business and he had to attend, just as I was expected to attend Kabuki which went for ten hours sometimes and the seats were painfully uncomfortable. The first time round, yes, the kimono were really something to see. The high pitched twangy voices were irritating after a few hours and all that was left of interest was watching the props people move scenery. They were dressed entirely in black, not a speck of skin showing and moved about the stage and you were supposed to be so wrapped up in the play that you didn't notice them lol
I did grow used to Japanese audiences though, they are the best in the world unless they have changed. They sit motionless, do not eat, do not talk and if by chance a person should be overcome by a cough, leave silently to cough elsewhere. All the orchestras who came to Tokyo commented on Japanese audiences with great favour.
Sounds reasonable. I used to shew gum - a bit - but mostly I really like bubble gum - particularly when I'm trying to watch what I eat - and will end up chewing sugarless bubble gum - and yes, blowing bubbles. But, it's very, very dependent on where I am. That said, the Indian husband - who had (probalby still has) lovely manners (diplomatic kid) really thought it was the worst American habit. That looking like a cow chewing its cud, especially the snappers and open mouth vigorouse gum chewers. So, I really stopped doing it.
Now, I'm with Brenda - on planes. And sometimes very briefly after going out for lunch - maybe a little freshener. A lot of the hockey refs chew gum while skating - helps if you get thirsty 'cause we don't get to stop for water all the time like players. But, you have to be mindful not to be too aggressive with it. I really just think, agreeing with Sheena, that most of the time people end up just in that rude, aggressive, mouthful of loud, open chewing. Ah, well.
You sound like my XDH. Do you still have a British accent - he sort of does ;^)
The other thing that gets me - drinking from a bottle. When I was in grad school in Pgh, I remember some of the guys in the dept asking me (being a "sophisticated" city girl) what I thought about our dept admin women. The women were about our age, attractive - spent a lot of time on make-up, hair (though a bit big), clothes - and not cheap, either - especially the grad program administrator. I think the question sort of had to do also with the Pgh women in general. Thing was - we'd go out sometimes - there was an area in Pgh with nice sort of trendy bars, restaurants, boutiques. And there we'd be - hanging at a bar, and these dressed up, clearly looking for some company women would be there - and next thing, get a drink - refuse a glass
- and grab some beer and just tip the bottle. Very incongrous. It was kind of a jarring image, and it was interesting that some of the guys actually noticed this - sort of you just a rough edge left on. And not that this was at an afternoon picnic - but in pricey bars. Funny picture.
Or the New York Narcotics cop that was a neighbor of mine and an expert knitter. He learned from his family that owned a knitting shop and did it as therapy to regain the use of his hands and arms when he was wounded in WW2.
You sound like my XDH. Do you still have a British accent - he sort of does
If I'm in the UK they say I sound Canadian, when I'm here they think I sound like from away, so I reckon I am mid Atlantic.
I agree but confess the nights I go to the pub with my guys from the local group, I drink beer from the bottle. It is a way of merging in with them and not appearing to be snooty, because I am not. Actually here, the bottle or not, is more a debate of beer going flat too fast in glasses, looks to me to be about fifty/fifty choice.
It's a sign of the times - I read one of the national newspapers that the habit of drinking from bottles is a result of drinks in a glass being "spiked" with one of the rohypnol drugs. If the drink is in a bottle then the drinker keeps their finger over the neck of the bottle thus avoiding this problem. Presumably this sort of behaviour is only seen in crowded bars.
Well I have to say THAT was not one of my considerations - sitting here howling with laughter just thinking of it lololol
Seriously, long before rohypnol I always warned my kids about that at school dances, always some joker who thought it was funny to add substances to drinks.
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