OT: BREAKING NEWS

Over here the CofE still uses BCP 1662 - see - although there are modern liturgies which seem to change very quickly, the latest one is Common Worship . The CofS uses the "Book of Common Order"

Technically, the 1928 edition is titled "Common Prayer". The 1982 is "The Book....."

However, the 1982 has two choices, one in more traditional language fairly close to the 1928 (which I am pretty sure is the one they used, although I wasn't following book) and one in more contemporary language.

DH and I will eventually (we hope) go out with that same service, although we will not have the marvellous choirs, soloists etc, and there will almost certainly be no eulogies, just the simp[le, stripped down service with three hymns.

Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.

In some of the more "advanced" churches, yes. I imagine it was done for this service either because so many of the congregation were unused to kneeling, or because the cathedral was so packed there simply wasn't room between the seats for people to kneel.

In our parish, there is one prayer where the rubic says "the people stand or kneel" and most stand, but, otherwise, we follow the traditional Anglican practice of "we kneel to pray, we stand to praise and we sit for instruction".

Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.

And I do marvel at the beauty of BCP 1662 when I visit England. It makes me wonder why we keep messing around with classics. I still have, and treasure, the 1892 BCP I received at my 1927 (!) Confirmation.

Felice

Fine point, thank you! And my 1892, which I received at my 1927 Confirmation, says Common Prayer on the binding and The Book of ... inside!

I never understood the idea of Rites I and II unless Rite I was designed to mollify the 1928 contingent. My mother was an 8 am faithful (Rite I) but the

One of my three will be "Go Forward, Christian Soldiers". It's our family tradition and I've always thought it a perfect send-off.

Felice

I think it was to accommodate different factions in the church (congregation as well as leadership) who had different views about what was most appropriate. You can make a theological argument for why it's important to worship in the common language of the day and place, just as you can make a theological argument for consistency over time and tradition and so forth.

Best wishes, Ericka

When I read your email for the first time I thought you'd said "Onward Christian soldiers" and I started to write an email telling you to make sure that the words are the original ones by Sabine Baring-Gould and not the new, politically-correct words by Michael Forster which begin "Onward Christian pilgrims, up the rocky way..."

Oh, good grief! You'll like this one, then: one of the Christmas readings at my SIL's church this year made reference to the infant Jesus wrapped in -- hold on now -- "strips of cloth" instead of "swaddling clothes".

Felice

I lived there from '86 to '91 and loved every minute of it. Now my g-dau has enrolled in GVSU so I'll have a great excuse to visit there again. I'm near Interlochen now and do like it here but not as much as GR. Kathy

We watched. We actually watched on and off during the previous days. Since DH had Tuesday off, and then was home with the flu on Wed-Thurs - we watched.

It was very nice. We watched the service here at the National Cathedral - and it surprised me that we did. IT was nice, and interesting. (the school where we coached hockey is the one connected to the NC).

True. We had some interesting conversations with friends that are a bit younger and their political awareness of the time - what they thought would be the case versus DH and I who were at least teens then - I had just starting university during the Ford administration.

Anyhow, we did watch the funeral, and proceedings. Might not match my religious beliefs, but it was a nice, and straightforward service. We thought it was nice to have their personal clergy doing the service rather than some more famous but not connected with the family person.

ellice

Was awake in the middle of the night and hear reports. Very scary. Biggest in 300 years and biggest in recorded Japanese history.

Nancy

We were watching CNN, etc. It is scarey. One of my friends, who just ended her term as chapter EGA pres, and set-up the stitching retreat that Donna & I were on last weekend, went to Hawaii on Monday. They were visiting a few islands, and staying in elder hostels - so this morning we're all hoping they got to high ground. And that people clear to inland in SoCal. The photos from Japan really make you think. Plus, hoping they're fully able to safe the reactors they've taken off line.

Amazing things happening in the weather...

Ellice