OT - Cheryl OK Update

He's home, DD is home from hockey, DS is still at hockey and I might get to bed eventually......

C

Oh and DS ate the ENTIRE bag of chocolate... C

Gluttonous goalie child. Hey, I live with one of those. Glad you made it through another day!

ellice

The only problem is that I might have two goalie children. Yup, DD donned the pads and recorded another win!!! Cheryl

Yay!

Well, just wait a few years until she notices the boys. Then you can get her out of the pads by pointing out that most boys prefer girls with teeth.......

Just perpetuating those hockey myths! They're impressed with goalie gals cause of the flexibility demonstrated. And, in youth hockey - through college - they must wear full face shields, and all girls must wear mouthgaurds - boys have to once they're in the "checking" age group, 12 + under, PeeWees. DH has never lost a tooth - in his over 30 years of hockey, in goal, including the old days in his molded face mask. Now, stitches - that's another story.

But, I will say, it cracks me up when we see some girl on the ice with a face full of make-up - generally those are the ones figuring this is a great way to meet guys. My fave - reffin' an Adult "bad c" league game, and the captain of one team is a woman, refusing to wear a shield, and with turquoise eye shadow on. And, she was viciously swinging her stick in the path of the other team's tripods.

That said, we've seen plenty of very athletic young women wearing a bit of make-up - under their hockey gear. Us old ladies crack up, as do the male refs.

ellice

The goalie cages are quite protective

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Good for her, she'll be fine! We played lacrosse at my school, not the sissy thing they play here now, but on an open field, you could not play behind the goals, but there were no sidelines. It was a lot of running.

The sticks were heavy and the lacing was done with a mix of gut and leather. We wore no protection and when someone tackled you and shoved that stick between you and your stick to grab the ball (heavy solid rubber) better watch out.

Goalies did wear an abdomen pad, mostly to protect the breasts. I remember someone firing a ball for goal and hearing a crack behind me and the goalie had taken it full in the face, I thought it had hit the goal post.

By and large though, remarkably few accidents. It sure developed fortitude and so it will for her.

I thought the point was getting her out of the pads by any means possible so Cheryl doesn't need to endure another goalie child. If perpetuating the myths achieves the mother's ultimate goal, she uses every trick at her disposal.

These are probably the same girls that grow up into women like my therapist's wife - she almost had her 3rd child in the car b/c she wouldn't leave the house until her hair was done!

Sigh, I know goalies are born to be between the pipes and are miserable elsewhere. But she's gotten more aggressive digging for the puck on wing....so maybe there's hope.

Cheryl

So far neither of mine have been injured on the ice. Knock on wood.

Didn't it start to run and streak and look kind of clownish?

The girl on DS's Flames team wears eyeliner - according to her Mom, as close to 24/7 as she can manage. It does look a bit odd under the mask.

Cheryl

LOL - that's pretty funny. But, I do know women like that. While Donna can attest - I do wear make-up - but it's not that critical. However, when we go to the CAPS games - which are very social for us - I do actually wear make-up and am infamous for putting it on en-route as we're always running late. But, to play sports - not happening. Ever.

ellice

You make me laugh - a bit. DH - definitely is a "Goalie" and identifies with that mentality in oh so many ways. In his youthful baseball team days

- a catcher - in football - on the offensive line (though evidently he played both ways in his sr year). Which means he has certain "goalie" quirks that are kind of indescribable, but you know 'em when you see 'em. He also looks askance at goalies that don't know their fundamentals, aren't smart. The key to him - knowing the game, being smart, and essentially barking out stuff to kind of lead the team when they're in "his" end. That said - when he started skating out it was a wondrous thing. He has a blast playing D. While he didn't play out one year (when we first disbanded our "B" team due to my injury), saying he only skated out to be able to play with me, and that "I'm really a goalie" - I was pretty sure he missed it a bit. What I notice now that he's been playing D for a couple of years again is that it truly lets him get out agression. He can't do it the same way in goal - because the focus/game face thing is so important. But, when he's out (and his last team, and this one have not good enough goalies for their level) he definitely supplements the goalie. But, more - he really is strong and aggressive as a D. Different skating of course, but. Last night

- of course at 3:53 to go - he got tired of the officials not calling the other team for several gratuitous punches/X-checks to backs of heads - and decided to essentially check a guy. Very well done - and DH - just turns after delivering the very solid check to guy now sliding down the boards like a cartoon character - and skates to the box - well ahead of the ref. OF course, this does eliminate any post-hit brouhah. So, he came to feel shame, and keep me company. Darn - he looks so sexy when the helmet comes off and he's just grinning in the box - I'm sure it's all the testosterone that's pumping during the game. So, what I'm babbling is that maybe she will find that skating out is more fun in the aggression release, activity way. Some folks it's either the scorer's mentality or the I dare you to get by me thing. Of course, I think being in goal is kind of fun - but I wouldn't want to do it all the time. Goalie aggression - to be good they have a subtler series of tricks - though DH loves to bump hard into the boards - all those pads - lets you rebound well and shake up some stalker at the same time.

ellice

I've only had some bruises - the worst 2 being from a guy whacking me up inside the leg with his stick. Big black 'n 'blue that looked like his stick blade, and was horrible for about 3 -4 weeks. The guys on my team made me roll up my hockey jock shorts at the next game so they could see it.

1 concussion from a head-on helmet knocking run. And, my favorite - the first year DH & I played together - on the aptly named "Team CHAOS" - Attacking zone face-off - I'm on the boards - face-off ccomes right back to me - with a defending winger. I make a lovely, quick, tape-to-tape pass to DH in the high slot (on the blue line). He sees guy coming towards him, and rather than shoot reflexively "passes" the puck back to me. Like a shot. It hits me in the left boob - towards the arm - right where my pads are cut out. Very loud obscenity screaming, I shot puck back in, and when there was a whistle - teammates all going ouch, or more - thought I would kill not yet DH. It was his first year skating out, but, we've learned that since he's so used to his heavier goalie sticks - well, when he fires one, he fires one. My boob was thoroughly and painfully bruised for some time. Our teammates weren't sure whether to laugh or just stifle it. DH still hasn't lived it down, and that's been nearly 10 years.

DH's injuries - well, the stitches really have to do with the old face mask

-evidently they could shift, and hence he got a couple of cuts. He's had his share of big time bruises - I don't like when you can see the knurling pattern from the side of the puck imprinted on his skin. But, the big cut which broke his orbital bones, was getting hit with puck in eye socket while coaching. Now USAH has insisted that coaches must wear helmets on the ice at all practices, etc. Good thing. Though, he probably would've been just as hurt (puck flew off the goal post and hit him while working with goalie off to side).

Keep on knocking.

I think the liner did - but the turquoise lids stayed kind of crayola looking.

Well, whatever works. I just don't like how anything feels on my skin. And, honestly, a couple of times when going to play men's league after work, and having some mascara still on - not a good thing. It burns when the sweat starts running - even though the mascara isn't running. I know guys who'll talk about noticing some woman wearing lipstick while playing - they can see it through the mask. Gets mixed reactions.

ellice

Back when I was 20 or so I commuted by the LIRR (trains for the non-NYers) I used to put my make-up once I got on the express train. I regularly sat next to the same gentleman, and one day he remarked, "the transformation is amazing, you go from looking like jailbait to someone it's safe to date!"

You do learn which stretches of road or track are smooth enough for mascara if you use the same route long enough!

Caryn

In that case I'd opt for black or blue lipstick. Something distracting. Tell the guys that's what color their faces will be if they mess with Hockey Chick! heh heh

On 11/21/06 2:14 PM, "Brenda Lewis" wrote:

LOL - that would be something. I only recall having a couple of actual fist-throwing events. But, it has happened. I'm not fast as skaters go, but as DH has warned guys - I'm very stable on my skates, hard to take down. SO, generally, I take care of myself. Though he has had one memorable event and took a guy out on my behalf - after the guy kept whacking me in the head when I pushed him out of the crease area, and I finally yelled at him - he's an ass - to which as he was going off for a change he turned to me, and gestured with his hands while yelling "bring it on baby" . When DH came on the ice next shift with the guy, he angled him off at the far boards and totally checked him - like a cartoon - he went down sliding hard . Friends watching from another team evidently went running to their locker room to announce that DH had taken out this well-known ass. DH just neatly skated to the box, but the ass got up and was crossing the ice, swinging his stick at DH like a hatchet. About 30 secs into the ensuing PK, this ass then takes out the knees of our best forward who was on the PK with me. The rest of time in the box, with DH in the other - DH just looks straight ahead, game face while the idiot jaws. At the game end, their capt asked me why DH (then my beau) took out their guy, to which I explained that he'd been hitting me in the head earlier, and she said, yeah, he's a jerk, and I then explained that oh, by the way, DH was my boyfriend. The idiot guy - seriously about 6'3" to my not quite 5'7" - and always dressed with a turtleneck trying to pretend he's Alexei Yashin.

But, for the most part, I'll hold my own but not a dirty player. I will punch back, though.

ellice

On my women's team we have an excellent player on offense who is also a great goalie. She can do both really well. These days she usually plays goalie because we don't have a regular goalie and she doesn't seem to mind it, but sometimes at practice she skates out because she likes that too. I think she kind of misses skating out.

My son played goalie in soccer last season typically during the second half of the games but played defense and/or offence during the first half. That worked out perfectly for him because he likes both and I think it is nice to not be so specialized when he's only 9 years old. I also like to see him running around. He was really good at goalie in soccer. He'd probably like to try goalie in hockey too but he didn't really get much of a chance to try it out. He plays mostly defense in hockey. I guess maybe I could sign him up for a goalie clinic or something just to give him a chance to try it. His hockey team has a regular goalie and a back up goalie so it is doubtfull he'll have a chance to try it on his current team.

I think being the mother of a goalie can be stressfull though just because your kid is the last one to prevent the score. It seemed that way watching him play soccer goalie.

I'm afraid this might be his last season of hockey. He whines about how hard the practices are. I think it is good for him, and he seems to still like the games so I remind him the work and the fun go together. I'm making him stick with it to the end of this season at least, but I won't make him do it again next year if he doesn't want to. Too bad because he's pretty good and it's good exercise. But it's too much of a commitment if he doesn't really love it and it seems to get more and more so each year he goes further along in the program. By contrast he looks forward to soccer and baseball practices when he plays those sports.

-Evelyn