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Probably because the book is a very strong social commentary and well writtne, while the movie is so in your face that for some the shock may override the thought it should provoke. I remember reading Future Shock, Norman Mailer's book about the media, and A Clockwork Orange in the same term in HS. Then, when the movie came out - I was already in college - came home on break, and my Best Friend's big sister had to get us in to see it (I was 16, Sally almost 17). For about 2 weeks the "X" rated version was out - before they pulled it, re-edited and reissued the "R" version. Some years later - maybe 7 or 8 - Sally & I went to see it again at a late night show - and were stunned to see idiot young men comeing in dressed as Droogies. Evidently they had totally missed the point of the movie, and were thinking it was more of a Rocky Horror Show event.

The banning magicians, etc just sounds ridiculous, but then, I'm almost always been in more urban areas, with likely a more liberal bent. Although, last election there was some bizarre woman running for county supervisor on the "ban Harry Potter" platform. While the county I live in is a pretty conservative one, I was glad to see she had virtually no votes (and as an election precinct chief - who gets to certify precinct counts, and then help the county board - I know whereof I speak).

Certainly ignorant - not necessarily a matter of intelligence. Don't get me going on this topic.....It's only the few at this point that seem to be interested in working to actually learn something and acquire a skill that needs fundamental knowledge. IF there's a quick way "just show me how to do it" most seem oriented that way - and I think this lack of fundamental knowledge, and the ability to build upon it is certainly starting to bite us in the proverbial ass.

Ellice

So opposite of my DB and I. I, the science, engineer geek would read anything - since a very early age. OTOH, my DB - with the journalism major, who's a very skilled attorney, hated to read - until of all things I got him to read the first "Thomas Covenant" book (for your fantasy geeks). Got him hooked, and since then - he reads. We share a lot of non-fiction, and some novels. His wife, OTOH, never read anything til DM got her to read some really romantic light fiction, Sidney Sheldon or Judith Krantz - so that's her deal. But, hey, at least it's something.

ellice

There are good hockey books as well, I have heard them talking about them as being ideal for sparking a males interest in reading.

As I understand it, from what was said, girls are very omniverous (as we can see here) but boys, if it's not sport, bikes, hockey, Nascar, that type of thing, it's unlikely they will sample.

Ooooooookay! Think I'll pass on adding this to my reading list!

Thanks, Bruce!

Joan

And humor! Mad Magazine, National Lampoon....I think they were mainly geared toward an audience of teenage boys. (Who've grown into men who read The Onion, including DH and DS!)

Sue

"lucretia borgia" wrote

At the bookstore, graphic novels and manga are also big. Some of the fantasy series, like "Warriors" have followers. TV and movie tie-in books (Indiana Jones really picked up) And there is always a cadre reading things like Halo, based on gaming. And, reassuringly, always some future geeks in the science fiction/fantasy section.

Dawne

I have read it, and seen the movie. However, it was very definitely written for a male audience. If the rumors are correct, it was written by a well known authoress, who was the mistress of a weathly, married man. The book was never meant to be published. She wrote it as a present for her lover; while she occupied the bed they shared. Jim.

Yup - DH reads his hockey books. I got him one last Xmas - a non-fiction "Ice Time" by Jay Atkinson

seems to have liked this and read it over some time. OTOH, theabsolutely worst written books which we have, and both laughed over are:Gilles Villemure's Tales from the Ranger Locker Room - his absolute herogoaltender, and very nice guy but the book is really funny in that it's likereading for 5th graders - with a slightly French Canadian use of English.http://tinyurl.com/69bx8oThe absolute worst is the one Keith Jones wrote (who DH knew fairly wellduring his CAPS tenure, and earned the nickname "Klepto) . I couldn't getthrough this. Possibly the worst hockey book ever.Jonesy: Put Your Head Down and Skate: The Improbable Career of Keith Jones Gilles Villemure book - well, he was a great player, nice guy, and it'sok to read. The KJ book is just bad.>

I think it takes something to get them intriqued enough to sample. DH also reads the Tom Clancy stuff, of course (hey, he's a submarine guy). And historical stuff - all the Founding Fathers, Founding Brothers, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, etc. But, hey - he's a goalie and they're kind of quirky no matter what.

Ellice

Mad isn't what it was in the 70's.

Cheryl

Oooo, good books! I've read all three and am now on her newest one, "Host", not part of the Twilight series. It's a little more sci-fi- ish than her first three. For those who might look for these, her name is Stephenie (with the middle e).

Joan

DH really likes a lot of non-fiction and recently I have him reading action/mystery books - David Baldacci, Robert Ludlum, Ken Follett, Jan Burke.

Elizabeth

Adored Follett and Ludlum, liked Badacci. I don't know Jan Burke. If she/'he writes like the others, I would probably like those books.

Lucille

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I think ignorance is worse than lack of intelligence. Far worse. Everything is so immediate in this age. I am on a plane and the SECOND we're on the tarmac people MUST call people telling them we're on the tarmac. Can't people see the boards light up when the plane lands?

Maybe I'm being too simplistic about it all. I think all mothers need cell phones, but not all children. It's out of control.

Hard to see the board light up when you're circling the airport in your car. Knowing I've just landed tells him how big to make the next circle instead of giving up and parking.

Ignorance simply means you don't know things. What you're refering to is bad behavior.

Elizabeth

How about Nelson DeMille? He's another one I enjoy for action/mystery.

sue

Indeed, there was an item on CBC radio this a.m. about just that. Seems there is now a CPA for those addicted, I kid you not ! My name is Sheena and I can't leave my cell 'phone unattended lol

I'll have to check him out. I also love Ian Rankin, but I'm not sure I'd recommend him for a teenager - something a little too spare and too brutal about his prose.

Elizabeth

lucretia borgia wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Really, I have always read anything I could get my hands on, I currently read about 500 pages a week.

Keith barber snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net

Ahem. I managed to bring up two children without a cell phone (I couldn't afford one, I was a SAHM).

p.s. I still don't have one. Anyone wants to reach me, there is a perfectly good landline at home, with an answering machine attached thereto.

Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.

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