Twelve dollars

First off, let me remind you and anyone who reads this that I WILL respond to every post made to this thread that is negative, nasty, accusatory and just plain mean! If I didn't "get to you" as you think I was trying to do (I was not -- just trying to be fair), why in the name of all that is logical, did you post this bit of nastiness? Folks, if you don't want to be embroiled in another flame war, just ignore this thread. So, did you read the note enclosed? 42 colors of floss @ 4/$1.00 plus tax is less than $12.00. Since most LNS don't sell DMC (they tend to sell Anchor), I had to assume you purchased it at one of the large chain stores who never charge more than $0.40 a skein which would be $16.80 plus tax. If you want, I'll be happy to send you another five or six dollars. If you spent way more than that, you obviously didn't get the floss at one of the large chain stores or on sale. Besides, several others have said they were sending you money. I don't know if that has happened but if so, I am sure you will get sufficient to cover the cost of the DMC. I'll happily send you however much additional money you want. I've said all along that all you have to do is TELL ME how much you spent on the DMC and I'll reimburse you the FULL amount! As I said before, you will not be reimbursed for the charts or laminating since that was something not necessary to the project and done because you wanted to do it. Also, your bobbins will be returned by Carolyn as soon as she has a chance to unwind the floss from them. Everything else was returned to you including a SECOND almost brand new chart! I had forgotten that Janet already returned a brand new chart to you.

You do realize that your post is also negative don't you?

FYI--every shop around here (and I have something in the neighborhood of 10 within an hour or so) sells DMC floss, not just Anchor. So your arguement that "most" LNS sell only Anchor is fallacious.

Why it was necessary to bring up $$$ spent is beyond me anyway, but it does just point out the overall pettiness of all this nonsense. You do yourself and the project in general no favors by continuing with these vindictive rants against everything Victoria says.

Caryn

I didn't find it necessary to **bring up the topic** -- I hadn't said one word about it. I have said repeatedly I WILL respond when I am being attached over ANYTHING to do with this subject.

I already sent you a break down of what I had to buy and you know exactly how much I spent. I was acknowledging the recipt of your mail. I didn't want to send you an email, so I did this here.

Yeah, but you were also pissed off because I didn't let anyone know I got the scroll rods back. So nothing is satisfactory for you.

Sounds to me that you wanted to be the spiteful, petty thing that you are and bringing this into the newsgroup.

So says the Magic Mood Jeep!

Jangchub wrote:

Sorry Vic, but I have never received anything from you outlining your expenses for this project. You must have sent an e-mail or *someone* on the group would have seen the post and likely mentioned it. Other than sending you more money to cover the cost of the DMC, I'm not sure just what you would like me to do. I had hoped that this could be dealt with privately but that doesn't seem to be what you would prefer. I'm sure many in the group would prefer that this be handled privately in e-mail but I don't think that would be wise now. Better it is dealt with publicly where how WE deal with each other can be held up to public scrutiny. I shall go on the record by saying that I sent Victoria $12.00 to cover the cost of the 42 skeins of DMC floss called for in the chart. I know that the chain stores often sell floss at 4/$1.00 and that is how I determined that $12.00 would likely be adequate. Since Vic has proclaimed long and loudly that she would never set foot in Ginger's (the only LNS anywhere near where she lives) I knew that she hadn't bought the floss there and paid the more expensive price that LNS must charge for DMC (and this is why I said most LNS don't sell DMC but Anchor instead). If people think I didn't send Vic enough money then I will gladly send her additional money to cover the cost of what the chain stores sell DMC for at full cost. I returned all of the Needlepaints fibers, the small individual baggies for the floss bobbins, the metal rings the baggies were on and the virtually brand new replacement chart that Janet had bought. Janet had already sent Vic a brand new laminated chart to replace the one that Vic had originally had laminated and sent along with the project. I have said repeated that I don't feel Vic needs to be reimbursed for any of the copies of the chart that she says she sent to everyone on the rotation list. Except for the floss bobbins, Vic now has everything she originally provided or money to cover replacement costs. Carolyn has the bobbined floss and will send Vic the bobbins as soon as possible. I'm honestly not sure what else I can do at this point except ignore the mean, nasty posts and that's not going to happen. Just remember that I WILL NOT allow any meanness to go unanswered. I am honestly trying not to be any sort of negative but I will not "turn the other cheek" any more. I have been slandered and vilified far too often to allow it to continue unanswered. If the group has any *constructive* recommendations (no, I won't just let it pass -- sorry), then please share them.

-- PAX, Tia Mary (RCTQ Queen of Kitties) >^;;^< Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their WHISKERS! See my Webshots albums at

Who exactly was the one putting a dollar value on it then?

Caryn

Public scrutiny? What is this, a murder trial?

Calm down. Even Ginger only charges 33 cents a skein. That's not the point. You seem to forget all the copying, mailing, envelopes to each stitcher with a working copy, the tube which somehow I was told got lost or destroyed, on and on.

She sent me the brand new chart, laminated, because it was lost. Remember that? I didn't lose it. I laminate all my charts. It was not necessary to send me the other brand new chart in addition to the laminated one. If you or anyone would like the chart, I will send it out immediately.

You have never once turned the other cheek. Right from the very first post I made to rctn you emailed me to control how I post. I changed computers over the years, but I remember when Trish was here and tried to censor our discussion about something.

Slandered? Give some examples of this "slander and villification."

Hmmm, interesting question, there. When I let go of the project, an offer was made to me. Mary said that she would just send me the money I spent on the project to get rid of me...something to that effect. Then when I listed how much I spent I never heard anything back.

If anyone here thinks 12 dollars is all I spent on this project, you live in a very different world than I.

to pick nits here.....your post was 100% meanspirited, spiteful and petty!

Caryn (pointing out the 100% obvious!)

It's always interesting to watch people yell "slander," yet, they have their own big mouths full of snot and spite.

This is a strange world.

Tia Mary, I think we need to realize that whenever Vic needs a jolt of something in her life, she goes trolling here for an argument (generally in the form of a post she then protests to have been "innocent"). I've watched it happen again and again and again.

I couldn't pretend to know why it's like that. Or why Caryn does that knee-jerk response of defending whatever meanness spews forth.

Tia Mary, NOTHING you can do will ever satisfy Vic. That's because it's not about you. You didn't cause it, you can't fix it.

There is so much meanness and sadness in the world today, and so many of us receive so much peace and comfort from our stitching, it'd be nice if this was a place we could share that instead. I don't know why it's not like that. I suppose I'm just too naive for the twenty-first century.

I had determined to ignore Vic. I admire you very much, Tia Mary, for determining to continuing to take it all on, and continuing to respond. You know what Edmund Burke said -- the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men (people in general?) to do nothing.

Jangchub wrote:

Oh look, the invalid is bored!

I think the person who started this project has lost touch with reality and is acting like a two year old. I truly believe she is just being contrary and looking to start trouble.

Lucille

Please explain to me , if this was all A Co-operative Voluntary project , why does one person have Her `expenses` imbursed , i followed this SAGA ,,, and just lost the thread of who ows what to whom and why ,,, mirjam

This is a very insightful and well thought out post. It was what I was meaning to say in *my* post, but what I said came out sounding like what I was criticizing

But what yousaid sounds like something Dr. Laura C. Schlessinger would say, ver batim!

Thank you so very much for your insight.