Hi Patti, lets see if I am any good at explaining this, I turn the fabric in to the end then stitch to where I want to have the point then make a small double stitch.then fold the points in in sections with the needle and dont bother about how small a needle just use a nice comfortable one and see if you can get this right. if you have too just cut the small tip of the fabric and then it wont be so thick, then start you stitching again and hopefully you will get it right but just try and please let me know how it worked out. I dont bother with grain as I love to use up all small pieces of fabric.never had any problems with it. rules are to be broken so experiment with these ideas and see if it works. I do not clip right to the turn line am always afraid that it wil fray so I make sure the turn under seams are not too broad. please ask if something is not clear I am a very patient person. Love chocolates (dont like sharing them)hahahaha but have to stop for a while to loose some weight. have to have a small operation on my knee in the near future. take care and keep stitching