For the quilter who has everything

This machine uses hot water from the water heater but has the capability to super heat the water hotter than that. When I use that cycle forget about it. It goes on forever. WHen you need that though it is handy. It really is a smart machine. I guess you could say it is like a smart mouthed kid though, too smart.

I am lucky here water is fairly soft but hard water takes a toll on everything it touches. Water at our last house was a nightmare it was so hard.

Taria

Roberta Zollner wrote:

Interesting. Out here in OZ that would be a disadvantage. We would often have gas or solar hot water which is heaps cheaper (and enviro friendlier) that electric (the other main alternative) hot water, so I think relatively few people would have their machines heat the water.

My dishwasher uses hot water from my HW tank too.

And yes - in a drought area and with just me living in the house I have a dishwasher! It runs no more than once a day and is set to use only 5litres for a load, which is less than I would use in a sink. And if you could see the number of plates and coffee cups that can accumulate here on a busy day . . . . . . lol

I've never seen a washing machine that heats it's own water. Debra in VA See my quilts at

LOL i've never seen a washing machine that *doesn't* heat it's own water

Jessamy

Good point! Our heating system is a bit unusual -a heat exchange. Pumps ground water through the coils, extracts heat, and stores it as warm water in the tank. Costs about the same as an extra freezer, but better IMO than a furnace in the house. We've thought about solar panels, but it's not cheap to retrofit. Roberta in D

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I love my front loader. It cost a lot but it was worth it!

Bonnie, in Middletown, VA

Same here, or at least for over 20 yrs! I think my Gran had one. I have an A rated machine and when we moved to France, left all our old electric white goods in UK. We had to buy everything new, so went for at least an A or AA or higher rated, that included the washing machine, which is A rated and it heats the water from cold, does a quick wash (30 mins). I wash nearly everything on 30 degrees now with no problems on results - except bedding and towels which I do hotter. The lowest rated item that I bought was the oven which was rated B, but that was the highest we could find for an oven. Strangely with the washing machine the lower rated model (almost identical) cost about 60 euros more and there wasn't even a promotion on!

The overall cost of the goods were no different from the lower rated models, I don't like wasting energy, we are trying to keep our "carbon footprint" down, but most of all why spend out more on an ordinary lightbulb, when you can use a low energy equivalent and if you shop around they aren't that expensive anymore. One day we want to build our own eco house with solar heated water, solar produced electric, water recycling etc. That's the new dream anyway.

Janner

France

I don't think they actually give machines a rating like that here. Higher end dish washers here have had booster type water heaters for some years and at least some of the lower end ones also do now.

A lot of folks here have natural gas heated water (or sometimes solar) so heating water with electric in a dish or clothes washer not nearly as efficient and that is probably why electric heating machine have not been as popular a notion.

Any> Jessamy wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:04:09 -0500, Taria wrote (in article ):

I think the closest we'd have hear is EnergyStar ratings.

Maureen

we used to have a washing machine for sale here to take camping or whatever. a small tabletop machine that you put minimal amount of hot water, soap, clothes in, clamp the thing shut and turn the handle a few times. the whole unit turned and the inside pressure from the hot water sealed in was what washed the clothes. didnt take much turning to get them clean either. no power and little water used to get the job done. talk about star energy savings, lol. i should of bought one just for fabric. it didnt hold much but would of been much less tangle and fraying on FQs and other small pieces. oh well, dont see it here anywhere now. shame cuz it was such a basic concept and took up little room. shrug, jeanne

Isn't it strange how things vary so much in different countries.

Our dishwasher heats its own water. When we purchased it about 5 years ago I had researched very intensively and got the most efficient that was readily available.

My washing machine doesn't heat water so is connected to both hot and cold water taps. It is a top loader as at the time front loaders were just so expensive. We paid about $800 for our top loading 7.5 kg machine, a front loading 5kg machine was about $1500 ( anything bigger wasn't available as front loaders are still relatively 'new' here)

Dee in Oz

n Jul 18, 8:34 pm, Janner wrote:

Those machines are still available here Jeanne. About $80-100 in some camping stores

Dee in Oz

Jeanne I have seen these in in two sizes in some of the catalogs that are mailed out. A few years ago I also saw one at a flea market. Good luck finding one. Barbara in SC "nzlstar*" <