Gene Kranz's vests

May 12, 2010 14 Replies

From the April, 2010 Smithsonian. Gene Kranz, many years flight director at NASA, wore a vest, a new one for every mission, sewn by his wife, Marta. There were three mission control groups, red, white and blue and Kranz's team was the white one, so his vests were always white. When the costumers of Apollo 13 wanted to duplicate the original vest for the movie, they were stumped because the original vest was faille, and no one had heard of it. . They finally did find some faille for the vest.



But here's the kicker... the magazine article says that faille is a "fine grained fabric of silk, satin or cotton , particularly popular during the



1950s".

Aargh!



Kay



Sheesh, how hard would it have been to google "faille"?

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I share my magazine with my DD when I'm through with it, and I remember thinking the same thing. But then again, at the fabric store the other day, the

*clerk* had no idea that "satin" was a type of weave, not the fiber. She kept telling another customer that the silk Dupioni she was looking at was "satin"....

You probably ought to know that outside of the US, this

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or possibly one of these

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is a vest.

This

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is a waistcoat

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I learned this from reading the "Ant and Bee" books by Angela Banner. I loved them when I was a child and they have been great favorites for my children too.

--Betsy

"Alan Dicey" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@brightview.co.uk...

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You say tom-A-to, I say tom-AH-to...

...let's call the whole thing off.

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As I understand it, what you call a "jumper" is what we on this side of the pond call a "sweater". An "ash can" there is a "garbage can" or "trash can" here, you use "petrol" we use "gasoline", etc., etc., etc.

Beverly

By the way , i have a treasure of a book

The Fabric Catalog, by Martin Hardingham, Wallaby, Pocket books New york, 1978. that has a special

List of Obsolete Fabrics , [page 152] but alas , no mention of this cloth

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Ah, not that simple! We call them sweaters, jumpers, pull-overs or jerseys!

What you refer to as a jumper we usually call a pinafore dress.

And the bins are usually 'rubbish bins' these days, ash not being in great production. And we have a recycling bin (blue), a rubbish bin (green), and a garden waste bin (brown, and therefore known as The Brown Bin).

And with so may vehicles being diesel these days, 'fuel' is becoming the prevalent term for car food.

The confusion & hilarity seems to occur when we use the same word to mean different things. When the terms are unique to the language like gasoline/petrol & trash/rubbish we each understand with no ambiguity.

Lizzy

'Muslin' is a case in point...

And 'calico'.

Not if you asked Gene.

By the time DH worked with him, he was still working in manned flight, but no longer a console jockey. Still a stickler for details.

Kay

True. However, the picture brought to mind by the phrase "Gene Kranz's Vests" is significantly different for me. I don't see a man in a waistcoat, well not at first. I can only translate it to "Gene Kranz's waistcoats" because I know who Flight Director Gene Kranz is.

An inspirational leader, the recovery of the Apollo 13 crew is nothing short of heroic. Strength in depth, meticulous preparation and a refusal to give in when it all goes wrong. I don't know if he was a Boy Scout, but he certainly understood the importance of "Be Prepared".

Were you able to hold in the spontaneous lecture on textiles? I ask because we all know I would not have been able to stop myself. I think this one would have started out "Not everything that glitters is gold. And not everything that shines is satin." (I'd have to intentionally omit "dull satin" so as not to confuse the poor wee thing any further.) lol

I'm working on a little theory too.... Have you seen the bottles of "Smart Water?" Well, I'm pretty sure there's a less well known, but more widely consumed alternative. I'm also pretty sure it's labeled "Stooopid Water." I've never actually seen the product, just the results of mass consumption. lol

Sharon

I restrained myself... barely. I did feel sorry for the customer, she looked totally lost. But "It's Not My Job"!

I think you're on to something! I love the "Stoopid Answers" category on Jeopardy! I can hear Alex's voice saying "Stooopid Water"....

Beverly

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