An Odd Question About Custom Fabrics

Hey, everybody!

I recognize this is going to seem strange, but here it goes. Just want to provide enough information so that you understand what I'm trying to do:

I enjoy camp shirts (a.k.a. club shirts). Most of the ones I find in the store are too touristy, so I found a tailor who custom makes them for me. I find fabric that I like, bring it to her, and she makes a shirt out of it. It's worked out really well so far.

Part of the fun is experimenting with different designs, and here's where things get iffy. I'm not sure if you are familiar with "megaprint" camp shirts. Basically, it is a huge image/design, roughly the size of a movie poster. There's a lot of shirt like this with characters from comic books and Japanese animation.

I am a movie buff, and have a couple of movie posters that I would love to have made into megaprint shirts. It occurs to me that getting the posters put directly on the fabric (like what they do for wallhanging panels) would work just fine. The problem is, where do I find a place that will do this? What are minimum orders? Will they be willing to do the posters, seeing as how I am not the copyright holder?

I should point out that I am not looking to sell these on eBay or anything like that. I just want a shirt or two that conveys something about myself. Does anyone have any ideas?

Sincerely, Pete Holland Jr.

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Pete Holland Jr.
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I have no idea if they will do this, but why not try the people who print banners? They must be set up for short print runs or one-off's in larger sizes than the T shirt printers... I don't know of any to recommend here in the UK.

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Kate Dicey

In article , Pete Holland Jr. of XNet Information Systems, Inc. uttered

A lot of photo stores have the potential capability but, as you point out, you do not own the copyright. Better to look for the fabric and have it made up.

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She who would like to be obeye

By the way, is that a Shakespeare reference or a Rumpole Of The Bailey reference?

Well, the next best thing would be to create a design of my own, not anything that violates copyrights but still gets the idea across. For example, a poster of a dancing video game is copyrighted, but a unique design with arrows is not. Would photo stores do that, too, or should I find a textile manufacuter (presumably, the design would last longer)? I'm in the US, by the way.

Sincerely, Pete Holland Jr.

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Pete Holland Jr.

Hi Pete, Have you considered doing your own photo silkscreens? It's really not that hard for monocolor. Materials available at any decent crafts store.

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romanyroamer

Hi Pete Down our way (Australia) we seem to have businesses that want to help us create our own fabric designs (advertised in our craft - mostly quilting - magazines) so I imagine you would most certainly have them in your part of the world. Try checking for frims that will help with printing photos and the like on fabric for memory quilts and have a chat with them about printing all or parts of your posters on fabric for you. You could try the link below which I accessed via a Google search. Good luck.

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Smudge in Oz

I've always been under the impression that copyrights were to prevent you from making a profit from the item, but you could use it for your own use how ever you want.

This place looks interesting

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might try local print shop to copy picture on to a piece of fabric. I know one of our local printshops has a way to do photocopies on tot-shirts.

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zwm

There's a product called Bubble Jet Set you use to treat cotton fabric you then run through your ink jet printer. You're just limited by the max width of paper your printer will accept. The result is washable.

Laura

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Laura Faussone

10 Big Myths about Copyright Explained
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Stanford Copyright & Fair Use - Measuring Fair Use: The Four Factors (This site explains when you can legally use copyrighted material without permission from the owner)
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

I am a movie buff, and have a couple of movie posters that I would love to

Pete:

It should be quite easy (although somewhat messy if my memory serves me correctly!) and quite a fun project to do. You will, however, need a fair amount of space. When I was a teenager we transferred all kinds of prints and posters to unbleached cotton and cotton/poly broadcloth using gestetner fluid. Rubbing alcohol is also supposed to work. It transfers the image reversed, so you might want to go to a print shop (photocopy place) and have a reverse colour copy made of your poster first.

I'm sure you could google for the instructions, or find a book at your local library on the process. Good luck!

Cynthia

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Cynthia Spilsted

Cynthia Spilsted wrote: > Pete:

You remind me of early times, when someone discovered that you can take a Xerox copy and glue, and actually glue the copy to the fabric, let it dry, then soak it and scrape the paper off, leaving the toner image on the fabric.

Seems like you might be able to do that with heat, as well, but I don't remember any reports about that. Toner is just plastic powder that is statically attracted to the paper, then melted in place.

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Pogonip

Cut & paste still doesn't "get around copyright laws" - at least here in the US.

Collage still must adhere to copyright laws - and what you are describing is creating a "derivative work" from a larger piece.

Another example would be sampling a piece of music to include in another song - the sampled piece still is copyrighted, and its author must be paid royalties.

best, Denise

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Cynthia Spilsted

You can transfer a photocopy to fabric using something like Plaid Picture This, available from craft shops. There are instructions here

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for using a similar transfer medium. You can also use a homebrew of water, washing-up liquid and white spirit. IIRC, you put the paper with the image face-down on your fabric and saturate the back with this unholy mixture. Then you "burnish" it with the back of a teaspoon to transfer the image to the fabric. Caryl Bryer Fallert uses Bubble Jet Set,
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to transfer images to fabric and if it's good enough for her, it ought to be good enough for anyone. I'd be concerned with either of these methods, though, about washfastness.

Or you can get special transfer paper that goes through a photocopier or printer, and is then ironed onto the fabric. It changes the hand of the fabric. If you choose this route, see if you can get a T-shirt printer to do the ironing for you as they'll have a press that can deliver the right heat and pressure.

I'd be interested to hear what you do and what results you get.

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Sally Holmes

So every time you sing a song or a band (school, garage etc) preforms a song they had better be paying royalties?

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zwm

In article , Cynthia Spilsted of uttered

Then you are displaying a spectacular misunderstanding of the copyright laws.

A single copy for "personal use" is vastly different to copying an image to then replicate a number of times in the manufacture of another item, even if it is not intended for sale. Yes, the copy shop are likely to refuse, and rightly.

I, as a photographer, own the copyright on images I produce and sell. If you buy one of these images to display on your wall, wonderful. I get paid, you have something nice to look at, we are both happy. If you then persuade someone to copy that image, or part of it, and transfer it, say, to a T-shirt, I will not be happy. I will express this lack of happiness in court. If the image is to be used thus, I will sell you another image, or I will sell you a license to produce a number of copies for use in an agreed manner.

The OP was talking about reproducing images of cartoon posters in this manner. I would urge caution. The producers of the posters have paid large amounts in license fees and royalties to whoever owns the copyright on the original images. They are entitled to take a dim view of theft. And before anyone leaps down my throat saying "it's a big corporation, one image won't matter" the likes of Disney can and do prosecute.

On the topic of pattern usage; if I copy a pattern to use for my self, that is not an issue. If I sell garments/ accessories made from that pattern to the general public and it can be proven, again, I am leaving myself open to prosecution. Again, it can and does happen.

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She who would like to be obeye

In article , zwm of

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uttered>So every time you sing a song or a band (school, garage etc) preforms a>song they had better be paying royalties?>

If it is a public performance of more than a small proportion of the entire work, yes.

And whether you agree with the principal or not, that is the law and failure to comply is not only breaking that law (and making criminals of the members of your school band) but depriving somebody somewhere of their livelihood.

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She who would like to be obeye

In article , zwm of

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uttered>I've always been under the impression that copyrights were to prevent >you from making a profit from the item, but you could use it for your >own use how ever you want.>

Then you have always been wrong. I suggest you do some research into the copyright laws of the country in which you live. Your local lending library is the obvious place to start

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She who would like to be obeye

So PETE (the Orginal Poster) , You better get permission to use any thing you have bought, because you might have to pay again to make it into something the orginal producer of the Poster dosen't make. These copyright prople are standing outside you door just waiting !!!

oh an to The She Who Is.... PLESE do NOT copy My words I have written You Are Infringing On The Copyright ME !!!

Now if all of you could give me answers on my actual Frabic Craft question that I have posted in this group....mmmm..welll yeah , what do I expect silly me!!

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zwm

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