Bowl gouge flutes; V. U, ?.

Time was when Peter Child's Superflute, made by Robert Taylor was my only choice in a hss deep fluted bowl gouge and I've used mine for a long time. Now every manufacturer, small and large, slim or rotund offers a bowl gouge and the advantages of their flutes and grinds run the gamut, at least the ads say they do.

I can pretty well change the grinds for myself, but I don't do flutes, so forget about the different steels & grinds unless the flute or steel affects or controls the grind in some way.

Are there basic flute shapes other than 'U' and 'V' ? ie. Flutes that are significantly or distinctly different from these. Seems most are variations on a familiar theme either 'V' or 'U', but I suppose there could be some satisfactory hybrids that I've not tried.

In your experience what are the advantages and disadvantages of the different flutes you have used? How much does cost count above $50? Do you keep any OEM handles that are obviously too short, for any reason other than pride of purchase?

Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter

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I wouldn't use it too much, Arch. A genuine Robert Taylor gouge might be worth something.

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I didn't know he was a woodturner, although in his day I think they may have called it something else. He was quite the Lothario, you know.

;^)

Sorry Arch... I am ashamed... I wasn't big enough to let that one go!

Throw in the "signature gouges" and who knows how many you actually have.

I am looking for the Glenn Ford gouge now and ....

Stop it, Robert.

OK, I think I am better now.

I have noticed that some tool manufacturers are changing some of their profiles a little, for what reason I don't know. I have had a 3/8" Gregory Peck bowl gouge (damnit... stop it...) I mean Henry Taylor for some time. I have ground it down to where it is getting close to using it as a mini three point, so I decided to replace it soon. When looking at the new gouges, some of them actually seem to have newer flute profiles on them than the profiles listed a couple of years ago.

On the smaller gouges, the flute looks more shallow, and on the larger ones they look deeper and more aggressive.

The deep V flute is too aggressive for my tastes. Strangely, I like it at the bottom of a bowl since I can grind it so you can use the tip. But the old U design, or one of the not so shallow U designs seem to be the best for me. With the wings swept back, they are easy to cut with and easy to control.

Absolutely. If I am too lazy to turn a new one or would rather work on my projects and not on my tools, the short one stays!

Robert

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I bought an inexpensive (cheap) one that is more V than I was used to. I can't get the hang of it. Use it some for roughing out. If I wasn't so cheap myself I would throw it away.

How much does cost count above $50?

More and more.

Do you keep any OEM handles that are obviously too short, for any reason

How about obviously too long? I have a 1/4" gouge that was always whacking the ways when turning the corner inside a small bowl or box. I sawed it off and now it looks more like a screwdriver, and I love it. Yes I saved the part I sawed off.

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Gerald Ross

I have a 3/8 and 5/8 Glaser (V) and a Sorby "superflute" (U) the same shaft diameter as the larger Glaser. The Sorby and the 3/8 Glaser seem really easy to control. The 5/8 Glaser, not so much. I have to really think about what I'm doing. It could be a practice thing since I don't reach for it until I think I have to.

To tell the truth, I'm not sold on the "super steels". They just don't seem to be that much different. But then my mountain bike is aluminum, not titanium or carbon fiber.

I try to buy unhandled whenever I can. I prefer really fat handles. If a handle is too short, skinny, or dosen't feel right I knock it off, but I try it first to make sure. My Sorby still has the original handle and looking at it I would say it was way too skinny. After I used it, It felt right so I didn't change it.

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OEM handles???? I give, what does that mean?

As far as U and V gouges, they are different. I have a 5/8 Glaser V gouge, and it is deff> > In your experience what are the advantages and disadvantages of the

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robo hippy

OEM + original equipment manufacturer

Ok I know you was joking it is april fools, but just in case................ Lyndell

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Hey Robert,

Senility has set in and I know I ought to look things up. Of course the gouge was made by Henry Fonda.

I could be wrong again and for alls I know it'll end up having been made by Henry Taylor, but I do remember it was designed by Julia Child. :)

Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter

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Well, I wasn't expecting such a humorous reply. I am still sitting over here chuckling. You may actually be on to something there. I could see naming my different gouges with names of my favorite movie stars of yore.

I realized after I posted that I could have been in deep water as so many folks now have their own line, and many I have never heard of. Just look at the Craft Supply catalog and you will know what I am talking about. Who in the world are some of those people?

Anyway.. you know I was just funnin'.

Robert

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nailshooter41

I like the Bill Clinton handle... Sorta cigar shaped..

mac

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mac davis

Why not try the algoreclimatehoaxgouge, it's a winner with scabble....

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My math isn't that good... Never could understand the AlGorhythm..

mac

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