Deaths thru woodturning

If a piece of wood comes off the lathe it can do

> you serious harm. Other shop tools can maim you, a lathe can kill you.

The above was a recent comment here on the group. While I certainly don't disagree with the first sentence, I have problems with the second. Everything in life is dangerous and potentially lethal: one can die from drinking too much water; one can die from whittling a folk art Santa and slicing through the femoral artery; one can die from just getting out of bed in the morning (most heart attacks occur during the first few hours of waking). There's risk in everything we do - the difference is how safely the activity is pursued and then the statistical odds of a fatal injury occurring while performing the activity.

It may be quibbling, but every tool in the shop can kill you and many of those are much more statistically risky, injury-wise, to operate than a lathe. I would suppose lathe injuries tend to be much less severe and permanently disfiguring than injuries from table saws, jointers, band saws, routers or a number of other shop tools. In the four years I've been turning I've only seen one instance of moderately severe facial injuries from a flying piece of wood (a few years back in the AAW Journal). I've seen, read and heard of nicks to the chins, friction burn injuries to the hands, bruised and blackened fingernails, a bruised temple (from getting smacked by a tool handle after the operator tried peering into a hollow form while the lathe was running and tool still working inside) and plethora of cuts, nicks and scrapes to the fingers. Every one of these injuries, including the facial bruising in the Journal picture, would heal within a week or two. Other shop tools remove fingers permanently. When was the last time the injury with a table saw, jointer or band saw you were told about resulted in only bruising?

On the whole, deaths from woodshop injuries, I would suppose, are statistically pretty low on the totem pole. When was the last time you heard about someone being killed using any woodworking tool much less while operating a lathe? I object to the alarmist scare tactic in the quoted post. I especially object to the notion that operating a lathe carries greater risk of death than other shop tools.

(BTW, I started my daughter out, guiding her hands while turning tops, last year when she was six.)

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Owen Lowe
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I agree it's rare but many years ago, when I was in grade school a friend of mine was killed by a bowl blank that broke off its mounting, split in half and impaled him in the forehead.

(Charles Singbush, P.S. 33, Buffalo, NY, approx. 1964)

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no(SPAM)vasys

I have knowledge of several people getting killed by operating woodlathes over the years.

Most of them by head injuries from operating homemade lathes with big blanks and too much speed getting big catches from bad tools.

I also have the feeling that the modern woodlathe, with exellent chucks, highspeed steel tools, and far better speedcontrol than a genration ago, has drastically reduced the dangers.

Bjarte

Reply to
Bjarte Runderheim

My 40-something years working in various types of shops has convinced me that technology has yet to conquer the three greatest contributors (causes) of accidents.....

haste......

lack of forethought.......

and ignorance.....

Reply to
Gene Kearns

What is it with NY and Numbering schools? Sounds more like re-education camps.

Reply to
Lobby Dosser

Four: Not paying attention

Reply to
Lobby Dosser

That was 40 years ago. Now the schools are named things like "The Fine Arts Academy", "Futures Academy", "Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Multicultural Institute". Unfortunately it seems the longer the school names get the lower the students score.

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no(SPAM)vasys

I think it might have been Samuel Clemens who noted that it is nearly impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

Keep teaching the young ones how to do lathe work ... safely. The most important thing going on is that one generation is learning from and loving the other. As a side benefit, the younger ones learn how to make things ... some of which happen to be round ... and gain the confidence that comes from the certainty of acquired skill. ANd we older ones get to show young eyes the beauty that keeps drawing us out to our tools and wood pile day after day and late into the night.

Bill

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W Canaday

I think you're imagining safety factors that do not exist. The steel in the tools? Hardly. Old lathes could and did rotate slowly, and unless you're talking a modest chunk of wood, a chuck is _not_ the initial mount you want.

I don't and won't stand in the throw zone of the lathe at start and spinup. That's plain dumb. No need to stand in the throw zone for cutting, unless you're talking long spindles, either. If those two rules are observed, home-made lathes - for the all used to be - are certainly as safe as a commercial piece.

It's the guys who talk about weighting their lathes to keep them from walking about the shop that concern me most. There are many who are inclined to brag about how off-balance they can turn as if it were a good thing. Of course, they often include people who use and vigorously espouse a spur center or a flimsy single screw at the headstock rather than the sturdy faceplate or pin chuck, which doubles their danger.

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George

If they have a cheap lathe with a tin-can stand, I understand. These stands are very flimsy. If they have to have a 1000 lb lathe to 2000 lbs, then I agree with you! Once the lathe is that heavy, probably some rubber dampening materials would be good for the feet.

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Derek Hartzell

It wobbles, not walks with a tin stand. Fortunately any of them can be made rigid by addition of plywood gussets attached with sheet-metal screws. Should be, really. Your hands and arms are trying to hold their position precisely to maintain a tool angle, and when that tool moves, everything is changed.

Which really begs the question, because the rotational energy of the out-of-balance piece will exploit the weakest point in your combination. You've just assured it won't be the inertia of the stand by weighting.

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George

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