Drying Roughed Out Bowls! ! !

Paper bagging, Liquid Dishwashing Detergent (LDD) soaking, microwaving, cover in sawdust and wait a month or two, boiling

- so many methods of attempting to control drying problems.

Which method above seems to work the best overall . . . I want to get into turning but I'm sure watching finished projects crack into firewood will be a real turn off.

Thanks in advance, Steve

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Steve DeMars
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Hello Steve,

For me, my boiling protocol produces the best overall results. It's still my first choice when I want to speed up the drying process, or limit drying degrade to the absolute minimum.

Boiling works consistently over a wide range of species, grain orientations, wall thicknesses etc. It's used by woodturners around the world and it's also becoming increasingly popular with a few wood mills in various Countries, for post-processing of solid blanks. Having boiled thousands and thousands of bowls and platters, I still think that boiling (for me) is the best option to insure a quickly dried, crack free roughout/blank.

Since I make my living as a production bowl turner, I have to use protocols that consistently work on a wide range of species and conditions. You need to try a bunch of things to really see what works best for you, your area, the amount of time you're willing to commit, the loss ratio you are willing to accept, the amount of money you're willing to invest, etc.

Your answers are likely to be different from your friends, so we must each endeavour to find the optimum protocols that fit our own unique requirements. Good luck to you and best wishes in all of your woodturning endeavours!

P.S. I'm still evaluat> Paper bagging, Liquid Dishwashing Detergent (LDD) soaking, microwaving, cover

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Steve Russell

Hi Steve, Welcome to woodturning where cracks are inevitable. I won't say "relax and enjoy them", only try to make them a challenge instead of a turn off. Problems with multiple solutions don't have a "best overall" answer. As others have said, your best drying method depends upon your timber and environment and the time, money and space you devote to the craft and your plans & expectations for it.

It's thought that cracks are mostly owing to unequalized stresses imposed inside relatively unyielding wood by loss of water from different surfaces or interfaces at different rates. If so, then it seems logical that drying without cracking is mostly about equalizing water losses by impeding the loss at one interface (axial end grain

->air) and/or aiding the loss at another site (cell ->interstices -> circumference ->air).

Many ways are suggested to do this. The archives can bring you up to speed and proponents can explain and defend their best way here, but there won't be a consensus of "best overall". Until there is, I mostly compromise with a simple natural method; benign neglect. I saw off the end of logs after they crack or split the log along a big single lengthwise crack. For wet/green bowls I either turn them thin or I put them in a paper bag to help them dry evenly. I'm not 100% successful, but then anything I do rarely is. :)

Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter

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Arch

Hi Steve,

I am a new turner too, and as I am sure you know, green wood turning is a great way to get started - free wood, easier to turn, and forgiving in many ways. Many turners stick with it for their entire careers. The mystery of the results, and the discovery of the processes that work (and don't) is as much fun as the turning. So what if some of it ends up as firewood, that's what it was to begin with anyway! Just turn and the results will follow.

In case you haven't run across them, here are a couple references that inspired and helped me a lot:

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TURNING GREEN WOOD BOOK , Michael O'Donnell available at:
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Objects with walls turned to 10% of diameter or less, a paper bag with shavings, and a little time, is hard to beat, unless you are into a lot of technology and processes that may distract you from developing your turning skills.

Just my two cents after all of two years!

Jerry

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jerhall95945

Reduce the relative humidity around them slowly enough to avoid drying the surface too much faster than the inside.

I have a basement, and took my humidity gage around looking for the calm, cool, high-humidity air. Found it exactly where you'd expect it - close to the floor. The fresh cherry from yesterday is still shedding unbound water up at chest height, but today it goes to the floor, to stay there until I need the space. At that point it goes to the rack.

Floor's 80% or better RH in non-heating season. With higher humidity in summer I sometimes have mildew problems down low, so the dehumidifier comes on.

Tables equating moisture saturation of wood and air at

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in the Wood Handbook, chapter 3. Lots of information on average dimensional change, as well. Use that if you're in a hurry to get something re-turned. Thinner you start, faster it dries.

Reply to
George

Just an obervation/joke Arch, but cranks are also inevitable.

as ever,

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Kevin

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