JoolTool Sharpening System

This week ends WWing show sure put a hole in my checking account, the largest single hole being for a JoolTool Sharpening System.

I'd seen this thing at the woodworking show a year or two ago and dismissed it out of hand for two reasons - it looked like a toy and the person demonstrating it looked like one of those pretty girls who stand next to a new shiny swoopy looking car and points at it.

Dumb!

This time I watched her demonstration - rather than watching her, and this time I listened to what she was saying. What she said made a lot of sense. What she did with the tool was the proof. She took my bowl gouge, with a hollow fingernail grind the Tormek demonstator put on it, removed the hollow grind while keeping the fingernail shape - and handed it back even sharper and polished - inside and out - in maybe 45 seconds.

Now I'm somewhat of a sharpening nut, with a Tormek and most of its accessories, a dry grinder with Norton wheels and the Wolverine jig, a fair assortment of diamond plates, a collection of india and arkansas stones ( I used to do hand engraving ), a Scary Sharp (TM) set up (but haven't gone to the MicroMesh

12,000 grit level). a 1" belt sander AND FIVE japanese water- stones - through and including 8000. No one method does it all and the JoolTool is no exception.

But for many turning tools and carving tools this thing may overcome THE major shortcoming of the other sharpening methods I have - I can see WHAT I'm doing WHILE I'm doing it. No more grind/rub - stop to see what I've just done

- adjust if necessary - grind/rub some more - stop and see where I'm at - grind/rub some more - etc., etc. etc., . . . and each stop oten means I've created a little faceting of the bevel. When I'm done I strop the bevel, stop and see what I've done, strop some more, stop and see what yI've done, . . . and then repeat the process for the "inside/top side".

With this thing there's no jig set ups to deal with - once you've got a shape that works for you (your preferred shape is probably different from mine) IT becomes your guide and you're the jig.

Because of my jewelry making experience, I've learned how to make my hands work together and with a tool. I imagine ceramicists who throw on a wheel have learned the same tricks (If you can get any part of one hand touching the other they'll both work together rather than chasing each other. If you can have some part of your body in constant contact with some fixed reference point for a tool or machine, you can position anything you're holding or touching with a surprisingly high degree of accuracy and control).

I don't know how well the JoolTool will work for handplane irons or wide bench chisels, but for many carving and turning chisels and gouges - especialy the small carving tools, this thing seems to be The Answer (ok so I could spend hours with japanese slip stones - I've got them - but I'm somewhat impatient).

Should have the JoolTool here by the end of the week. Will post first impressions and then review it after I've used it for a month or two.

Oh - if you see the pretty lady at the next woodworking show, watch what she does with the JoolTool and listen to what she's saying. Bring your most difficult to sharpen gouge or chisel with you - and be prepared to crow bar open your wallet.

charlie b

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after looking at the videos, I don't see why you have to have a $300 tool, just a washing machine motor and one of those 3-M disks -

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William Noble

Well let's see - the 3-M "disk" screws onto a tapered threaded spindle - you change disks two or three times if you start with reshaping and end polishing - the unit is variable speed - which you need depending on the grit you're using - and don't want to burn the tool you're working on - the unit has a small footprint maybe 8" diameter and two sheet rock screws are all that's required to secure it to a surface. - spindle is tilted at 15 degrees so you don't have to lean over it to see what you're doing : :

charlie b

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Why not put your hard earned money into a Tormek sharpener instead?

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Hi charlie b, I don't know if the JoolTool will be the ultimate answer to sharpening turning tools, but the concept is certainly innovative and the inventor is said to be a woodturner. I wonder if she was the attractive demonstrator.

I hope you aren't disappointed like I was as a twelve year old when I bought a $1.00 wonder kitchen knife from a lady demonstrating them on the street. I didn't know that those super thin slices were cut on frozen tomatoes with a better knife. :)

At the moment, my main criticism is that I didn't think of it. Over the years I had thought about ways to see thru faceplates etc. in the way we can see the tool edge and judge wall thickness of a hollow form that has holes in its side.

I'll be interested to see if your being able to see the surface being ground freehand will take the place of jigs. Jigs are used in other situations in which we can see the surface being dealt with.

Thanks for your interesting post. I look forward to your discussion and evaluation of something different for a change.

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Oh Boy! I meant a change from rcw's usual threads, not from your threads. :(

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  • tapered threaded spindle - ok, I'll bet it's a standard taper, easily machined for or less by your friendly local machine shop

  • vairable speed - well, a washing machine motor isn't, but a small AC/DC motor would be - I have a box of them - your foredom type tool has one, the cheap harbor frieght you name it tool has one...

  • small footprint - 8 inches is actually a pretty big footprint - my diamond disk rock polisher uses a 1/3 hp washing machine motor and it's 8 inches square in footprint, the only cost beyond the diamond disks was about 5 cents worth of glue and some time to salvage the motor from whatever I took it off

*secure with two sheet rock screws - aaah, why is that a feature?

  • 15 degree tilt - ok, so tilt the junk motor any way that floats your boat - why is that hard?

my point here is not to insult your jool tool (or anyone else's jool tool, or the company, or anyone or any thing) - it may well be wonderful and at least as good as sliced bread (whcih by the way anyone can create with an inexpensive tool called a "knife") - my point was to suggest to those amongst us that might have to think hard about $300 that there might be ways of getting the same capability at a lot less cost by using some personal time to manufacture something like they are trying to sell you. And no, I won't be buying or making one - I don't think I like that system from watching the video - but then again, that's just me. YMMV. My real point is that we can make a lot more of the stuff we use, and we probably should.

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Have one - and most of the jigs, along with a 6" grinder with Norton wheels and the Wolverine jig, DMT diamond plates, arkansas stones, india stones, japanese water stones, an assortment of slip stones, 1" belt sander and a Scary Sharp (tm) set up. Each does a few things the others don't. The JoolTool fills in a gap - small carving tools, sweeps and some turning tools.

Was going to add onto my mini/midi lathe bench for the Tormek but the JoolTool will be my edge restorer instead. Smaller foot print, no water, no jigs or jig set up, all the stuff for it will fit in a small box or drawer. If it's fast and easy to restore and edge I figure I'll do it more often rather than continuing to use the tool well after the sharp edge is gone. The Tormek is great for fixing a dinged bench chisel or plane iron without fear of burning the edge.

The japanese water stones are great for flattening the back of a plane iron or bench chisel, as are the diamond plates and Scary Sharp.

Scary Sharp works well for "fettl> my point here is not to insult your jool tool (or anyone else's jool tool,

You pay either > I don't know if the JoolTool will be the ultimate answer

"Utlimate" - no way. Convenient for restoring an edge on most turning tools? We'll see.

Innovative? Well this type of machine has been available to jewelers for quite a while. Adapting it for sharpening wood working tools isn't that big a leap - if you were a jeweler first. The pretty lady who does the demonstrations was a jewelry maker and is a turner. She and her husband came up with the JoolTool.

Will report back on this thing after I've used it for a couple of months and given it a workout.

charlie b

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