Good Sunady

Some year ago a Chinese scholar came to the US (he didn't want to at first but his student was very persuasive) to look at some ancient statues that were dug up in South America. He was astounded to find that the "scratches" on them were ancient Chinese characters that spoke of titles among a group that were driven out way back when. It was written up in the Smithsonian magazine because the statues are owned by the Smithsonian and were on display at the time. Apparently some Chinese people made it over here a long time ago.

=Tamar

Maybe the cabin boys in those ships rather than the captains passed the games along. My great great grandfather was a cabin boy on a sailing ship after being orphaned in Ireland around age 10. He traveled all around before settling in New York some twenty years later. Fortunately he met a young woman there and settled down.

I have only seen a picture of him as an older man with a beard - but I am sure as a boy he might have been interested in learning games.

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" skrev i melding news: snipped-for-privacy@ar.news.verio.net...

I,m breaking in here and waving!!! Thor Heyerdahl is Norwegian! here is more about him:

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Yes, and of course there were some travel and mooving earlier too! We just think they did not, because we never use so much time on the travel itself, and cannot imagine that anyone has done it earlier either! In Norway, every family have relatives who emigrated to USA, Canada and some to Australia. And SOME of them came back... to live... or just for a visit. So it IS "explaiable" LOL! And Mirjam, you are nearly right about my grandfather, he was tall, fairhaired with a big moustache! And he had a looooong pipe! AUD ;-))

Thank you so much for this information and the website link! I had never heard of this man or his expeditions before, and have strange looks given to me for even hinting at the possibility of the link between the different continents years before the commonly learned about explorers and discoverers. It's quite obvious by the findings and trials of Thor Heyerdahl that it is very possible and most likely probable that it did indeed happen. Now I have a website to send people to when they think (or look like they think) I've lost my mind for feeling the way I do about such things. :o)

Gemini

I didn't realize that he had lived that long. I remember reading his stories myself - wasn't one of them called "Kon-tiki"? Great books!

Katherine

Yes Katherine, Kontiki is a great book. When I was looking for the correct spelling of Thor Heyerdahl's name, I walked over to Otto' s Sailing book shelf. Could not find it so quickly, so I went and Googled it and that was when I learned that he had died. I loved his books, great adventures.

Els

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I'm with you, Gemini! I think we, in the modern world, are quite presumptious in assuming that only we and our modern technology can do certain things. I think a lot of travel went on in what we call pre-history, but those people lived much more lightly on the world than we do, and kept no written histories that we know about. Also, sea levels have risen significantly since the last ice age. Who knows what evidence of habitation and travels might have been 'drowned' in areas that were previously coastal.

If you enjoy Thor Heyerdahl, you might be interested in Tim Severin who has also done explorations in the historic styles, such as sailing a leather boat across the Atlantic ocean.

Gemini , try and Find the Book about the KON TIKI [Spelling] sea travel ,,, it was glorious ... mirjam

THANK YOU AUD you should be proud of this countryman of yours ,,, mirjam n

I am sorry about the missplled name , i red Kon Tiki in Hebrew had no clue how to write his name in Latin spelling , mirjam

Hee Katherine ,, one sees we read the same books !!! hahhah mirjam

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Well it don't matter as long we understood who you mean,it is the same man isn't it ?LOL! AUD, yes we ARE proud of him!

We have a lot in common here!

Katherine

A while ago, I watched a program where one man wore the clothes that a Viking sailor would have worn - like a felted woolen cloak - and the other wore what a modern sailor would wear. It was interesting to see that both sets of clothes were about as effective as each other, in keeping the wearer warm and dry in Atlantic storms.

Thank you for this website, Eimear! I forwarded the URL to myself to read thoroughly a little later. :o)

I have always had a fascination with explorers and history. I took great interest in the Viking stories, as well as the in-land expeditions of later explorers of North America, when learning about it in history in school. In my teens and later (when I allowed myself to think more deeply about the concept of past lives) it made me begin to wonder if I had been around during all the ocean travelling and exploring days, or if I was just being overly romantic about what it might have been like to have lived back then.

Then again... if being overly interested in something means that you lived a similar life, I have something to be concerned about... I also had a major fascination with gangsters (Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, etc, etc). You never know who you're talking to (from the past), do you? LOL

Gemini

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Oh Yes Tim Severin, is one of my favorites as well Eimear. His journey from Ireland to New Foundland, retold in his book the Brennan journey is a great book. He, just like Thor H. retraces the journeys made hundreds of years ago, this time by by Irish monks. The boat sailed in was not a wooden Viking ship, or a rafttied together with ropes of some sort. No this time the hull is made from tanned leather hides, sewn with special treated linnen thread. The sails were hand woven also from linen. Materials that would and could withstand the force of water and the rotting when wet. Linen is strong when it is wet. It is all discribed in great detail while they are rebuilding this boat accordingly to old manuscrips. We are certainly right on topic here, weaving, spinning and sewing, and who knows even knitting. We are talking middle ages, right Eimear, or is it earlier.

Els

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In the 6th century, Els.

Eimear