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I've seen laceweight yarn measured at 2/16 thick and other yarns
mentioned as 16/8, but haven't run across a definition as to what that
means. I know some of you know or have a link to a description of sizing
  written like this. Help?

sue

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forth :

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The first number is plies, the second number is standard hanks per
pound in standard conditions.  A standard hank varies based on the
type of yarn.  Unless you're working with metric counts, which is
pretty standardized.  

I have no idea why my fellow Merkins can't wrap their poor puny brains
around metric.  Probably something to do with that New Math that got
popular toward the end of the 1970s...

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Okay, I thought it might have something to do with wraps per inch or
something.

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I took math long before then when there was no metric system in the US
<g> though I can usually figure and translate well enough.

The yarn I'm thinking about (Knitpick's Shimmer) is listed at 2/16,
their hanks are 50 grams of 440 yards. Talk about mixing systems...

Thanks, Wooly.

sue

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I finished elementary school the year before my state introduced New
Math, so I was given my lessons in Old Math until I graduated high
school.  Kids as little as two years younger than me couldn't hack it
in high school algebra by all accounts, because they had been taught
too many "shortcuts" in arithmetic, or something.  I'm old enough that
Imperial is my primary language of measures, as it were, but I can get
along well enough in metric.  

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Oh, that's nice stuff.  I swapped a buddy for three hanks of it,
they're thinking about what they'd like to be when they grow up.
Shimmer is 2-ply, rather loosely plied so not a firm yarn.  On quick
inspection I'd say that it is approximately 1/2 to 1/3 the thickness
of a "standard" sock yarn like Opal.  The fact that it has no wool
content - and thus no stretch/memory - means it ought to be knitted
pretty loosely for lace and then blocked moderately.

HTH

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I'm thinking of it for another Clapotis. People who've used it, knit two
strands together. When the rows are dropped, it becomes lacy and it's
advised not to block it. Don't need to really for a scarf/wrap anyway.

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Yes, thanks.

And speaking of blocking....

I just said you don't need to block for a scarf, but I think I might on
another one and as I've always used acrylic before, I never have and
don't know what to do. I made a scarf from Debbie Bliss' Alpaca and
Silk. It turned out nicely, but stretched a bit, leaving it less than 4
inches wide and I wanted it about 6ish. Soooooo, I reknit it wider, but
this yarn isn't as forgiving as acrylic and the stitches look uneven.
Would they `reset' so to speak, if I swished it gently in coolish water
and then laid it to dry? I hope I haven't messed it up by redoing it.

sue

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heh, heh - there isn't a metric system in the US is there?  Your gas is in
gallons, your distance is measured in miles, weight is in pounds, not kilos,
your temperatures are in Farenheit... etc etc.

Canada switched to metric years ago, and I've pretty much switched too,
except I still measure my knitting in inches, not cm's. :>)

Shelagh



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Uhhh, I guess I meant before we `knew' about metric here. Before Canada
and the UK switched over, that is. ;)

sue

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The US has officially and legally switched over.  It's just that most of us
refuse to use it.  Both systems are taught in school.

=Tamar


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Richard Eney wrote:

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The Metric Act of 1866 made the metric system legal for use in the
United States.  I hope your not really 140 years old!!

Roger.

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Yarn Forward wrote:
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No. And may have made been legal for use, but didn't really catch on in
popular language or usage until the 70s.

sue

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after spending a lot of time in sweden, i have become ambidextrous for
measurements,,, my volvo here displays temp in C and our indoor-outdoor
thermometer also in C but the furnace/ac displays in F because it
doesn't do decimal points and therefore F is a finer adjustment [so
that's what F stands for?]

and after driving 110 in sweden, i had to think when i came back to usa.

on the other hand, sweden measures highway and automobile service times
by miles. well, actually på svenska, mil .... which is 10 km]
and my first trip to sweden and we were going from stockholm to
Gothenburg and my [now] swedish wife tells me it is 35 miles. ha! i
could look at the map and know it was more than 35 miles.

klh in VA

[and the insides of my kitchen cabinet has long conversion lists to-from
metric. but i still have to pay attention to deciliters. not so easy but
our new stove from sears has the option to display in F or C so guess
which min svenska fru wanted? wrong... it displays F]

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"Legal" and "mandatory" aren't the same thing.  Metric was presented
to me in elementary school as an "alternative" - it seems to me that
Mrs. Raube spent maybe one day on metric, out of the 220 or so school
days we had in 5th grade.

Until the metric system is the mandatory and only system of measures
used in the U.S., and Imperial is no longer taught in schools, metric
will never catch on as the common system of measures.  My son has
known how to use a ruler since he was 4yo or so - I gave him a metric
ruler and a metric yardstick; I also gave him metric measuring cups to
play with in the bathtub.  And of course his elementary school is
teaching the kids Imperial.  I can only keep reinforcing metric at
home and hope he'll be fluent in both systems.

*sigh*

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suzee wrote:
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All you ever wanted to know about yarn counts is at

http://www.yarnforward.com/yarncount.html

Good luck!!!!!

Roger.

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Thanks.

sue

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