New Beading Project Book

Nov 08, 2003 23 Replies

VALERIE!! (Yes, I am yelling).

WHY are you apologizing to Jan for asking a follow up question to Sooz's comments?

Sooz is quite frankly, entitled to say what she wants to. Her opinion is hers, we may like it or not, but she has the right to it.

I know that people DO have a sense of eliteism...I have an acquaintance who has it in spades. Am I jealous? Nothing to be jealous about...her husband is in Federal Prison, her supposed friends have left her since her "station" has descended, her children have left her because they feel she is at fault for their dad's imprisonment. And yet, she continues to maintain her elitist, entitled stance. Fine, she can, I just won't buy into it.

I know neither the author nor Sooz, other than via the ng, but from what I have seen of Kate's book and site, there is nothing any more special than anything that I have seen on this group, by all of you who put yourselves out there to show us your work.

I have to agree. I've met Sooz, but have not met Kate, so I am sure I am biased, but Sooz is a wonderful person who doesn't mince words when it comes to posting her opinion. She was answering a question, but she was also posting her personal experience when it came to dealing with Kate on one particular issue. When someone is in business for themselves, they have to consider their public image when dealing with anyone who might be a potential customer. From what I gathered, Kate offended Sooz by alluding to the fact that Kate needed the beads more for business reasons. I am not sure what lead up to that, but something like that has a tendency to alienate potential customers. That being said, I also love Kate's work, and have no idea personally what kind of person she is because I have never met her. But I do know that Sooz is wonderful, and I can say that because I have met and spent time with her. I don't think this was a public bashing - just a comment on business practices. Word of mouth still counts for a lot these days, and I can see that there are people who adore Kate's work and Kate as a person. The same can be said for Sooz.

Just to be clear, I didn't ever say to Sooz that I "needed the beads more than she did!" why would I say something like that?

Back When, she emailed me to accuse me of being greedy, and "driving up the lampwork prices on EBay". (I had offered what I thought was a fair price of one to two dollars a bead, for three big strands of beads.) She said that she expected that I would "back off and give other people a chance for once."

I responded, politely, that I was finished, I only wanted the beads that I got, and that I did in fact have a deep need of the beads- I wasn't buying them to hoard or just to make her miserable. I had three huge shows coming up and needed a bunch of beads to make a ton of jewelry with. I was happy to pay a fair price for them, from artists that I respect and admire, and didn't attempt to snipe in at the end and get them for a song.

I never implied that I was more entitled to them than she was, only that I WAS entitled to buy them for a fair price in a public auction, and shouldn't be harassed about it by a fellow bidder who didn't know me from Eve. I didn't report her to EBay, although what she did was against the rules and could have resulted in her suspension from bidding.

That was it, as far as I know. she apologized to me over the email and I never heard from her again. And then I guess she just started leaving mean little posts here and there, now and then. She was rude in this thread, and there is no point in defending what she said, because it wasn't right for her to say it. She can have her opinion, of course, but to defame someone in writing, in public, is a serious matter and should be done with more consideration.

I'm not worked up about it, because I'm not a very uptight person. But I'm not going to be quiet about it, either, if I feel that something so negative to me, and so off target, is just sitting out there. In general, I'm careful in how I deal with others and I wish that people exercised more self-control when contemplating a negative posting about another person on the internet. It isn't really any different than if it was published in print. It lives forever, and has an impact on the person that you attack, and is subject to the same rules of society and polite discourse.

kate

Kate, Glad to hear that you are going to let us see more sample pages.

I don't doubt that you put in 10-hour days. Your website shows it.

Do you ever get up to the Chicago area to teach?

--Mary Mary Lind

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