OT: explosion in North Korea?

I think it was a train wreck. Or so they're saying. Weird...

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Then why aren't they just reporting it?

*answer's self* weelll... it *is* North Korea.

If it was something like that hopefully most of the "cloud" was just dust, right? I am so worried about all the animals who would be hurt in a 2 mile radius (not sure if many people live around there?). Oh, yeah, and the world-wide reprocussions. "W" really dropped the ball on N. Korea negotiattions from day 1 of his being in office, litterally, IMO.

marisa2

It was infact on Thursday (was reported on Saturday morning) and it was "odd shaped cloud".

As I said, it's not been informed. They are really not that keen on telling things happening in N. Korea to other countries. Like the train disaster while ago. Over 150 dead, 1300 wounded, tens and tens of buildings gone. Two trains collided, other was full of dynamite etc. explosive and other was filled with some sort of chemicals.

Johanna

oops...I was *thinking* "Thursday" when I wrote this... we noticed this especially because at first I thought it was being surpressed in US news because of 9/11 (yesterday), then we noticed it happened on Thursday. (Believe it or not I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist but I'm pretty upset about the way things have been going lately).

I understand that North Korea would like to supress things. What I don't understand is how, once there was an Associated Press report of any kind, it wouldn't be mentioned on major news venues, even if the full story wasn't known yet.

marisa2

Johanna Koski wrote:

Just keep in mind, mushroom-shaped clouds aren't unique to nuclear explosions. Almost any thermal-type explosion, like a gasoline tanker or oil well, will result in a mushroom cloud. Could be it was a freight train with fuel cars. I haven't heard anything anywhere, though.

KarenK

So, I no sooner speculate and post (silly me, I should've Googled first) than I find this:

Yup, it was fuel cars colliding. They mention that Kim Jong-Il had travelled along that rail line 9 hours earlier, and report speculations of a botched assasination attempt. KarenK

Yes, I know. The reason I suspected it was the fact that it was not mentioned generally sooner. (Oh, and the 2 mile diameter. Is that usual for things like train crashes??)

marisa2

Karen_AZ wrote:

By the time I read your original post and when I answered it, I had watched 3 or 4 BBC news from telly telling different stories about the incident in N. Korea. First it was a mushroom cloud, then it was just plain "odd shaped" cloud, then it was told to be photographed from satellite showing the cloud and the hole that it had left. They said in BBC news that the cloud was approx. 4 kilometers, which is approx.

2.5 miles wide. Pretty big bang again there :(

Johanna

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:09:32 -0400, Karen_AZ wrote (in message ):

It is now being reported on the CNN site. Although the area does have some uranium enrichment facilities, it is doubtful that this was a nuclear blast. The area where the explosion took place is darned close to the the Chinese border, and Kim Jong Il is a fiend, but not an idiot. The Chinese government would be on them in a heartbeat if they started messing with nukes that close to China.

The other big thing that makes me think it's not nuclear is that the Chinese are not reporting fallout. The explosion happened on Thursday, and there would likely be detectable fallout all over that area by now. If the prevailing winds sent the fallout the other way, we'd be hearing bitching from South Korea by now - and China, just a different part of that huge country.

A large fuel explosion would easily make a mushroom cloud of those proportions. It's the concentrated heat being moved up, then spreading out, and the cold air taking its place that makes a mushroom cloud, not anything specifically nuclear. We've been conditioned to think that mushroom cloud = nuclear explosion, but such clouds have been around a lot longer than nukes.

What a shame for those poor people in North Korea. That place is right up there on the short list of places that qualify for "Hell on Earth.

Kathy N-V

Their safety standards must be increadibly low, even compaired to what we are used to from countries like China and India, or even third world countries, since we don;t get reports like this every few months from other places!

marisa2

"Last Updated: Thursday, 22 April, 2004, 18:42 GMT 19:42 UK "

Are you sure that this is the correct incident? This appears to be a previous accident.

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Karen_AZ" :

]Yup, it was fuel cars colliding. They mention that Kim Jong-Il had travelled ]along that rail line 9 hours earlier, and report speculations of a botched ]assasination attempt.

but wasn't that months ago????????

Yup, it was fuel cars colliding. They mention that Kim > sorry - that was APRIL OF 2004.... not the same explosion...

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Latest news. N. Korea says that they have blowed up a mountain that has been blocking a powerplant some sort of .... Don't know what they have used to blow it up, thou.

Johanna

This is the most complete report I've seen so far. It sounds like it is fairly certain (based on the fact that China hasn't noticed any fallout etc) that it is not nucleor, but certainly didn't rule out tests of other types of weapons from what I understand.

marisa2

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