OT Homeschooling...

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:25:00 -0400, Lee S. Billings wrote (in message ):

I started reading to DD in utero, partly as an experiment to see if she was listening. I think she was, because when I'd read, she'd immediately start kicking. (I also listened to a lot of Bruce Springsteen to foster an appreciation for his music, with less than optimal results.)

Once she was born, we read to her every single day. As soon as she was able to communicate at all, she'd pick the books we were supposed to read -- I think we read "Goodnight Moon" every night for about two years. (Yes, I still know it by heart)

We pointed out words in the real world as well as in books. She learned some word recognition when she was very young, and it was pretty funny. We'd be driving by a supermarket and she'd say "That smells Star Market" or "That smells Pizza."

She learned to read early and has loved books pretty much forever. One unexpected side effect of all that reading aloud was that she learned to read aloud comfortably and with feeling. I hear so many people who read aloud poorly, with little feeling; and I'm glad that DD picked that skill.

I am a voracious reader, as is DD. P/T D is getting a lot better at her reading, and is starting to like it as well. Of course, I don't always play fair in getting them to read: I'll start reading something wonderful, stop at a really exciting spot (claiming my voice is too tired to go on), then I leave the book in a handy spot. Invariably, they dive for the book and go on without me. (heh, heh, heh)

I also buy them pretty much whatever they want to read. DD has a subscription to the Weekly World News, and she and her friends can't wait to sit down and go through it from one end to the other. Sure, it's garbage, but it gives them practice in reading, vocabulary words and they have a good time while gaining fluency. Besides, it's fun to read about Bat Boy dating Saddam Hussein.

Kathy N-V

P.S.: When DD was small, I'd encourage her to make up her own stories and I'd transcribe them as she spoke. I think it helped her learn to organize her thoughts and definitely taught her how to write expressively. It was also fun and enlightening to see what was on her mind.

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Kathy N-V
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we do all that stuff, too, it's so much fun! I have DD read to me several times of day. She's getting to the point where she'll start reading *me* bedtime stories soon...LOL

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Jalynne

That's great that you learned so many great things in addition to your time in the classroom, and I'm glad you had such a good experience. I know many who were not so fortunate. I do agree with you about the driving thing. I'm not sure we'll be teaching DD that when she gets there...but then again, we're not her only teachers even now.

School, both public and private varieties, is not not a parallel to real life. It is a contrived environment. I'm not saying that schools are a bad thing in principle or that teachers have no place (my mom was a teacher for nearly 30 years, i'd get shot if i thought that). I'm saying that they've become inadequate over time. I do know of several school districts that are wonderful, however, their main goal is still to teach to the average child, and the exceptionally bright ones or the slower ones get lost.

Sharing some personal info here, which might give some insight as to my decision making process: My DD (and most homeschooled kids) learns the same things (dealing with variety of people, and learning to find their way around) in every day life. She also learns even more practical things on a daily basis, which will prepare her for the "real" world. I wish that I had been given those same skills when I was in school. My parents were involved, a LOT. Mom taught at the school I went to, and my dad was the president of the booster club. They always asked about my homework and helped wherever they could. And still...it wasn't enough. There wasn't enough time in the day after sitting in the classroom being bored out of my mind, because I already knew what was being taught, for me to learn more practical things, for one thing because of the "busywork" they gave me, which they disguised as homework. I ended up having to teach my 11th grade history class, because the teacher didn't know what he was talking about. Many many of the parents complained that quality of education was dropping drastically, but it did no good. I was too busy buying into the "grade comp etitions" and getting emotionally abused by my peers to really make more than a handful of friends. And this is all too common anymore. I don't want my DD to grow up this way. I don't want her coming home crying that someone had been cruel to her, as kids will do (she has had her feelings hurt, and has been in arguments, which I've made her hash out herself, so she knows how to deal with that type of thing). I don't want her learning how to swear and several other things before she's ready to deal with them. There are so many more negative things out there that just weren't as bad when the majority of us were in school. I don't think it's wrong that I want to protect my child from the negative things that could distract and discourage her from learning. My child, every child, deserves to be in an environment where she is encouraged, challenged, and safe. What I've seen so far in schools in the districts where we've lived, she would not get that.

Every situation, school, etc is different, and I totally recognize that. I'm not saying that my decision would be the best choice for my neighbor. I'm saying that parental involvement is essential, but not always encouraged by the schools. I'm saying that as a nation, we need to wake up and fix what's wrong with our schools so that no more kids fall through the cracks. We need to make it a priority, each and every one of us. We're each part of a larger community, and responsible for the children, even if they're not "ours". If that means that more families homeschool, then I'm all for that.

I don't want to be seen as a bad, controlling, etc. parent for choosing to teach my daughter myself, because there is just so much guilt that already comes with parenting, and I'm rather sensitive in that particular area. I'm actually a pretty good parent most of the time (we all have our moments, of course) It is my responsibility as a parent to give my child what she needs and to teach her how to be prepared for life, and I'm going to do that in the way that works best for us.

I realize that I've opened myself up for debate, and that's fine. I'm open to other's points of view. Just know that I have done my research very thoroughly, and I've made my decisions based on the facts of my situation. If my situation were to change, of course I'd be open to considering a different path. The bottom line is, my intent is not to say that anyone here is wrong in their opinions, but to put the facts I've gathered, and the basis for my decisions out there, so that if someone else is considering the options, they have a clearer picture of what they're getting into. It's not an easy answer for any of us. But we each need to support each other in our choices. I'm also not trying to convince anyone that my way is the way they should go, but that there are so many other options out there, and things don't have to be done the same way that they've always been done. I am seriously considering putting my future law degree to use in this arena, making changes to benefit all of our kids' educations. I want to thank all of you who have posted your opinions in this thread, because it has really helped me to look at various points of view, ones I might not have gotten otherwise. They've helped me consolidate my own views, and even may have focused my career goals.

Thanks also for letting me ramble and share my personal experiences with you.

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Jalynne

My parents read me bedtime stories -- and they put the book down on the bed where *I* could see it too. I'm convinced that this is why I picked up reading by age 3, following along with Pooh! By age 4 I was reading the newspaper; by age 5, I was reading at 4th-grade level for pleasure and could pronounce and define scientific and technical terminology up to about 8th-grade level. My parents and I had a lot of differences, but this is one thing for which I will always be truly grateful to them.

Absolutely! I hear way too many people *my* age who can't read aloud in anything but a monotone. Don't they hear the intonation of the words in their head as they read? And of course, if that's how *they* read to their kids, that's how the *kids* learn to read, and it becomes a self-perpetuating cycle. My partner's daughter is apparently one of the few kids in her class who can read aloud with expression -- and this is at the Performing Arts magnet school!

Celine

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Lee S. Billings

Youre bring back fond memories of reading to DS, Jim. Manys the night we would snuggle up and read, read, read, until my voice really *did* give out. Shel Silverstein, Box Car Children series, Christoper Pike...and then came that wonderful day when he asked to read Stephen King. I thought about the sexual content in the book he chose and said yes, talked about the part that made me uncomfortable and let him loose. Now dear daughter has Daddy and myself read to her almost every night. Goodnight Moon and One fish, two fish are being memorized again. Soon it will be trips to the library, once she learns that books are not meant to be eatten, and she can pick out her own storys. I can hardly wait to find out what sort of storys interest Meg and what new treasures she introduces me to. Diana

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"Kathy N-V" (snipped savory story)> I started reading to DD in utero, partly as an experiment to see if she was> listening. I think she was, because when I'd read, she'd immediately start> kicking. (I also listened to a lot of Bruce Springsteen to foster an> appreciation for his music, with less than optimal results.)>

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Diana Curtis

Sneaky. But effective...

Deirdre

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Deirdre S.

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Deirdre S. :

]Sneaky. But effective...

seconded! brilliant, too.

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vj

When I tested for college entry at 35, after no college, my level of reading and comprehension, etc, were at post-grad level. I read, too.

Tina

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Christina Peterson

My name has been Lukesmom, and occasionally Eriksmom for years.... Kaytee "Simplexities" on

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Kaytee

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnospam (Kaytee) :

]My name has been Lukesmom, and occasionally Eriksmom for years....

exactly! Jamiesmom and Johnnysmom.

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vj

Karlee, I was homeschooled, and while it's probably not for every child, I did quite well and never felt socially deprived. I ended up better educated than my peers who graduated from the public school system. I was, for that matter, better educated than my older siblings, who went to public school.

Furthermore, teachers public, private, and even college-level, often do not know the curriculum themselves until they study it shortly before the students do. You don't have to be an expert at a subject in order to teach it, if you have appropriate materials.

Those who have knee-jerk reactions against homeschooling are often simply brainwashed against anything that removes children from the employee-mill our public schools have turned into. Sorry if that offends anyone; I believe that the strict subordination heirarchy of our schools serves primarily to create adults who will make good employees. I say this despite the fact that my father has an advanced degree in education, and my sister is a public school teacher for the 7th grade in LA.

Homeschooling can be an excellent alternative to traditional schooling, and is always a superb *supplement* to traditional schooling. Good for you.

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Kalera Stratton

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