Re: I am ready to blow.....

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:36:41 -0400, BeckiBead wrote (in message ):

If your supervisor is any good, she (or he) will appreciate that you are > trying > to cut down on the crap so that actual work can be done during working > hours. > If you put it in that context, how could anyone be mad? >

When I was a manager, my way of approaching the problem was to make sure that the complainant didn't end up as the target of revenge once I spoke to the offender. I would tell the complainant that it might look as if I'm not doing anything, but please know that I was going to observe the situation for a bit before taking action. Invariably, the person complaining would be relieved, because in that way, the offender wouldn't necessarily know who complained.

For a phone abuser, I'd probably look at the PBX records. Most corporate phone systems keep track of employee phone use, as do nearly all voice mail systems. If this person is truly spending a lot of time on personal calls, it will show up on the reports. If the friends are using the toll free number, so much the better: I'd be able to see the incoming phone numbers. (If we had a ghetto phone system that didn't provide reports, I'd nose around the work area, listening for calls which obviously weren't work related) In every instance, there turned out to be multiple offenders.

Then, I'd get _all_ my people together, and say that I have had complaints about misuse of personal call privileges, and that I'd be happy if I never had to hear about it again. This would invariably stop the people who weren't misusing the phone and keep them from making/receiving personal calls whatsoever. The real offenders would tend to go on their merry way.

Then I'd bring the offender(s) into my office, individually, and show them the portion of the phone records that represented their calls. Usually, they'd be shocked that (1) I had everything in writing and (2) How much time was really spent on the phone. I've had people who lost more than a whole day of work screwing around in the phone every week. (One guy was calling his family in India for over an hour a day on company time and the company phone bill!)

I'd explain that I didn't want them mis-using the phone, and would always give the person a chance to explain why there was so much phone time spent on personal business. I'd also make it clear that I don't want anyone taking their personal phone messages, because that would merely compound the problem. 99% of the time, that solved the problem. Only stupid people keep up bad behavior when they're confronted with incontrovertable evidence.

The remaining 1% of my people were stupid and thought I wouldn't keep after them. Those people got fired.

The reason I've told you all this is to tell you that there are ways the supervisor can handle it without confronting the person and saying "Someone ratted you out." You might want to suggest to the supervisor that running reports on people's use of the phone system is a Good Idea. Unless she's totally clueless, she'll know exactly what you mean.

Kathy N-V

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I wish Kathy was my supervisor.

However, if you know your supervisor is not going to handle it this well, I'd let it go. I know I'm the only one giving you this advice, but your job is to do your work. And that includes answering the phone when you're the only one available, regardless of who is on that phone, personal or not. Let go of your anger and focus on doing the best job you can. All the extra time that you are putting in that your coworker is wasting will eventually show up in the quality and quantity of your work compared to hers. In the long run, you will know you are doing your best and that's really the only thing that's important. And I think the supervisor probably sees more than you think she does.

Good luck.

Cheri (Bubbee to Emily and Nathan)

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Cheri2Star

Best bet

when someone calls - ask if this is a personal call. when the person answers YES tell them that she is UNAVAILABLE and that this is a company line, and recommend she contact employee at home. politely say Good Bye a few of those and they won't call anymore! LOL Cheryl of DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:53:43 -0400, Cheri2Star wrote (in message ):

The funniest part is that I *hated* being a supervisor. The paperwork and such was no problem, and I have no problem teaching people how to do their jobs. I even like interviewing and hiring people. My people always told me that they thought I was the best supervisor they ever had.

But I still hated it. I hated all the interpersonal bullshit, this one won't work with that one, this one is in a bitter fight with her boyfriend this week, you have to handle another one with kid gloves, etc. I am not the type of person to ride herd on people and pressure them to do the work. I prefer to hire grown ups and let them make their own decisions. Unfortunately, in large corporations, you rarely get to hire your whole team. Invariably, you inherit other departments' problems. (If they were great, the other supervisor would have never let them transfer)

That's phenominal advice.

The way I see it, the worst thing would be for your supervisor to tell the other person that you ratted her out. Suddenly, it will go from a misuse of phone problem to an all out war. (I've seen it, plenty of times) Depending on which one of you has more clout on the company grapevine, it could well turn out that you end up looking like the instigator of the problem.

BTW, since messages on desks invariably get lost, I always instructed people to put messages on people's chairs. I also insisted on everyone having those NCR phone message books, so we'd have a permanent record of all the messages taken.

Kathy N-V

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Arm yourself with some duct tape and mittens. Go stand in front of her desk with an evil look. Don;t so anything, just stand there ... if she asks why, then tell her someone in the office has a phone calling problem and you mean to stoop it. Hold the tape roll in one hand and keep slapping it in to your open hand ... maintain evil eye contact .... Rainbow

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V :

]The way I see it, the worst thing would be for your supervisor to tell the ]other person that you ratted her out. Suddenly, it will go from a misuse of ]phone problem to an all out war. (I've seen it, plenty of times) Depending ]on which one of you has more clout on the company grapevine, it could well ]turn out that you end up looking like the instigator of the problem. ] ]BTW, since messages on desks invariably get lost, I always instructed people ]to put messages on people's chairs. I also insisted on everyone having those ]NCR phone message books, so we'd have a permanent record of all the messages ]taken.

bingo. again, Kathy!

----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)

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Oh...I love it!!! You're Hired! (I want my next office 'manager' to be you - I wish I had come up with that!)

Janice Random Acts of Beadwork

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This sounds like a very rational and humane way to handle this.

I wish you could do a School for Supervisors (in all your spare time, of course)...

Deirdre

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Deirdre S.

Thanks

!>I also insisted on everyone having those

I thought of this after I went to bed and was sorry I hadn't included it. This is a must, JoJo. That way you don't have to remember her personal messages and you have a book to show your supervisor at the end of a month or two to make your point. And it might turn out that you're not taking as many messages as it seems.

Best of Luck,

Cheri (Bubbee to Emily and Nathan)

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In article , Kathy N-V writes:

this one won't work with that one, ... I am not the type

My last "job" while on active duty was supervising a lab section (specimen collection)-- I had no choice in the matter about the assignment. I had no input on who was to work there, and as low man on the totem pole per personnel assignments-- had no say re: keeping them. My administrative supervisor (Chief D) was enlisted supervisor for the whole lab, my technical supervisor was the medical director for two lab depts (a doctor with specialty in pathology, subspecialty in hemotology). Talk about frustration.... I got all the "new guys" after they did their "one week in each dept" rotation. They then stayed with me until there was an "opening" in another dept-- not necessarily a burning need, or even an official "billet", but an "opening".... I had to make a work schedule at the beginning of the month-- two shifts, 7 days a week balancing who "couldn't" work with who else, who would be dangerous working with who else, which combo would bog the whole place down and have patients lined up all the way down the hall to the front door.... Fine-- no problem... except the schedule would have to be totally revised at least twice before the next month because of transfers to other sections, often with no replacements for my section, and what replacements there were, were "newbies".... Chief D thought it was just I didn't know how to supervise, so he magnanomously decided to do a little "hands on" training with me.... He gave up after 3 days-- said there wasn't anything I was doing wrong/not right and "good luck".... He did present the problem at the next departmental meeting, along with the suggestion that personnel assigned there stay until the end of the month, but.... "Them as have the gold, make the rules".... After I got out, that lab section got transferred to "Admissions", and new lab people went there FIRST, before they did their lab rotations. And Personnel decided who got to transfer out, and when.... I heard things were running MUCH smoother....

Kaytee "Simplexities" on

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