Re: OT Speaking of losing things.....was Re: Now, this is annoying!

away and sold them for pennies on the dollar to neighborhood kids. Arrrgggghhhh! Antiques! And my handmade Barbie dresses! <

OMG, Sooz - I think we have the SAME brother!!!! This is exactly what mine did with our stuff stored in my parent's crawl space - had a HUGE garage sale!

Carol in SLC New pic (9/5):

I hope not!! Hopefully you packed yours better than I did. I would have done better had I known...

-- Margie

I think I'd kill anyone who did that to me. At least my parents ASKED me before getting rid of things! I'm still sad, in retrospect, about the loss of my old comics collection (when we moved from MI to TN), but I didn't know any better and neither did they...

Celine

:-O

Deirdre

And this is why some of us are fighting to change the societal meme that "growing up" necessarily means "having children". We believe that a fair number of those people do so just because they've never considered the possibility of NOT having children -- because the assumption that you will is a default so deeply ingrained that a lot of people are *incapable* of thinking around it.

Celine

At least you found out what happened to what was lost.

This reminds me of something I bitch about every once in a while.

We moved from an apartment to our own home 13 years ago. I *know* I had a bunch of cards from my wedding / bridal shower stored in my hope chest. I may have emptied the chest in order to move it, but I can't believe I left a box with those cards (and a few other things) behind!

The one card in particular that I wanted was one from my late mother. She included the message, "I O U a wedding gift."

Now, I've been married for 30 years; I think it's about high time that I collected on that I O U. (Although I don't intend to visit Heaven to do so!)

As my mother-in-law used to say, when something was misplaced, "It's with the other."

Cheers, Turtlelover

THIS IS SO TRUE! Thank you for voicing it, Celine!

When my mom goes home and isn't looming over my shoulder at unexpected moments, I may share... I do love her, but oh she drives me crazy!

So far DS has not cried all night, he tends to sleep most of the night, and he hasn't chucked up my favourite shirt 'cause I don't really have one, but it wouldn't stain ATM 'cause breastmilk chuck doesn't.

What an interesting factoid. I didn't know that. And I am glad your child is sleeping well, so you can rest and wake up ready to enjoy him.

I didn't mean to imply that having kids is a long nightmare. There are wonderful aspects as well. But I think that lots of people view parenthood through rose-colored lenses. Until they are in it up to their necks, and have to face the truth that some of what goes along with having a kid is -- inconvenient.

Deirdre

I didn't mean to imply that having kids is a long nightmare>

not always but it can be..... LOL been there - got the t-shirt Cheryl of DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

However, I feel impelled to point out here that while miracles *do* happen, no one is required to waste their OWN life waiting for someone else's miracle. Sometimes you have to walk away and let them find their own path.

Celine

Absolutely. It's usually the best chance that miracle has.

Tina

Well he sleeps through until a growth spurt, then he wakes up for extra feeds. Last growth spurt was 4-5 weeks ago, and wanted extra feeds last week - stepping up demand.

I vote a strong Yes to this. Making your well-being contingent on things you are yourself willing to do and change is a whole lot more likely to end well for you than making it contingent on someone else's willingness to change.

Deirdre

Absolutely!

What I was taking mild issue with, though, was the possible implication of "never give up on someone, miracles happen." I've heard variations on this phrase used *way* too many times to convince someone (for example) to stay in an abusive marriage. "Don't give up -- he could still change!" And the religious version -- "You promised to stay with him for better and for worse, doesn't that mean anything to you?"

I don't *think* this was what the original poster meant, but it could have been interpreted that way.

Celine

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:45:22 -0400, Lee S. Billings wrote (in message ):

I'm the original poster, and I absolutely think that change has to come from within. You cannot change another person, the only way people change is if they choose to change. My point is that it's not always a hopeless situation.

As far as staying in an abusive marriage, I'm the last one to advise someone to stay there.

Kathy N-V