:)

You'd think, wouldn't you. But my boys just don't seem to be into bags at this point, no matter how much I extol the virtues of corralling all their stuff in one place. They just tend to throw on the shirt/shorts/socks under their clothes and stuff their shoes in their pockets :-( If *only* they'd stuff a complete set of stuff (and a backup pair of shoes) in a bag and keep it somewhere logical...

Nope. Fortunately their feet aren't usually in bad shape. Mostly for them the issue is sore muscles and "shirt burn" (from failed lifts), but the boys aren't old enough that they're doing a lot of heavy duty lifting yet.

Yeah, and even that is limited. They need white shirts for class. They can do something more interesting for rehearsals, but frankly, they get in a rut and just grab white shirts for rehearsals too.

Will do.

Best wishes, Ericka

Really really small! honestly, DD just gets into it, but she's no beanpole!

C

I do stew type things in them, and pretty much anything that I want to bake

- pasta dishes, blintz souffles. Because of the heavy bottom on the Le Creuset - if you do something on the stove to brown down - then move to the oven they work really well. I'm thinking of doing a large "group" onion soup in it. Great for doing kind of old fashioned pies - meal types with veggies or the like, then put the crust on top and in the oven.

Funny how that works. Someone gave me the huge Calphalon paella pan - I thought "what the heck" - but ended up using it quite a lot. The gift that I was surprised by - the Cuisinart Pasta Maker - very expensive, and very heavy. But it does work - and had all the attachments for various shapes (but not for doing clay - the little hand crank is for that). I was totally shocked when some friends gave us that - it's the reason I'm thankful for having sliding -pull out shelves in a couple of big cabinets - at least that way I can pull the shelve forward to lift it out (too much to have out all the time).

*snipping the rest of my lust for pots

ellice

Just send me the list, and I'll get some for your next "squishie" . Also - I think Macy's is having a big sale on the Nike dri-fit (which is just as good - and I prefer for some things - it is a bit looser).

LMK

ellice

I told you that it couldn't be a men's large. I think I have some women's size M in drifit - I'll look to see if so. They'd be big - like a women's

8-10- which I'm definitely not anymore. I'd think the youth L or women's small would be good for her. LMK - you can send the too tight stuff to Erika, and I'll find some for the namesake!

ellice

Are those the "fingerprint" pans? The expensive non-stick with the circles inside?

We got one of those frying pans as a gift. Heavy pan, weighs a ton. Anyway, one time (before we remodeled the kitchen) it fell from the cabinet above the stove to the floor - a drop of about eight feet. Amazingly, the pan dented, but **the Pergo floor wasn't even scratched!** That floor is tough! (Although a 4-yr-old in red spike heels did put a few dings in it when it was brand new...which I can laugh at now, but at the time I cried!)

For me it's baking pans. I drool over the Baker's Catalog. And someday that Viking Mixer will be mine, too...

Sue

No - those are Circulon. I'm not crazy about those, but DH's cousin has them, and likes them. The Calphalon has a smooth interior - only problem - when the anodized ones get stained you have to buy their polishing stuff, Dormond. But, it lasts a long time. Pretty heavy, but not terrible. Kind of slate grey anodized aluminum.

Anyone in a spike heel - that's a lot of load per sq inch. The way that airplane floors are designed - the critical load is a woman in a spike heel. But, it broke the floor in for you.

Hmmm - Baker's Catalog? I'm just starting to get that realization that better baking pans really do make a difference. But, I was happy to see that in Cook's they recommended the pyrex glass pie dish!

ellice

't drool too much. Best wishes, Ericka

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Speaking of Xmas presents .... I haven't quite decided what to do about my nephew and 2 nieces, but otherwise I'm done. Of course I only had to buy 2 gifts.

However, I thought I'd throw something by you.

One of my jobs is with a foundation, and for Xmas this year we are going to spend the morning of the 15th doing some team-building personality testing and then go to a very nice lunch. We also received a gift certificate, which was to be spent in the lingerie department of the Bay (referred to as the 'foundation' department in the cover letter). We are then expected to 'share' our gift in an afternoon session, and tell how that particular garment reflects our view of the Foundation. It was also suggested in the cover letter that we could share our gift further by donations to the Women's Shelter. However, I was telling a co-worker at my other job about this, and she thought it was very strange. "Let me get this straight. You're supposed to buy your own gift and then share it?" Well, I think the emphasis is sharing verbally rather than physically, but yes, we might have to share ... spirit of the season

As it happens, bras (I was in great need) were on sale this weekend (45% off), so I was able to get 3 bras with only a further expenditure of $15 of my own money, so I could give one away quite comfortably and still feel ... er ... supported.

Now all I have to do is think up some psychobabble for the afternoon session. I don't think flashing is an option.

Comments? Dora

"bungadora" ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with

You could mention you purchased bras which leads to breasts which leads to food production as well as support. By the time you work all the way round there you will sound very clever, true nobody understands but that's okay because nobody will admit they didn't, so your talk will be voted the most thought provoking and innovative.

Now if you had bought thongs, well that might be another matter and call for much more careful consideration lol

Well, here we are on Saturday night again Sheena.

I was thinking more along the lines of how supportive the bra is and how hard it is to get a good fit. I don't think I want to talk about breasts too much. It's going to be bad enough passing my bras around the room. Particularly since I'm a 38DD and all my co-workers are practically flat chested.

Dora

lucretia borgia wrote:

Ya know, this sounds kind of fishy to me - requiring you to buy undergarments? Is this a co-ed sharing? They shouldn't expect you to share ANYTHING about your underwear, bras, whatever unless you WANT to.. Who came up w/ the idea? I get the foundation / support connection, but it still just sounds inappropriate.

Hmph, at some of the places I've worked, I would have needed to get some "granny" panties so I could say I always feel the need to cover my a$$ at work!

Seriously, I agree that forcing you to buy a "gift" of undergarments, publicly discuss them with co-workers, and then donate them to a specific place it WAY over the line.

I suppose if you MUST say someth> Speaking of Xmas presents .... I haven't quite decided what to do about

"bungadora" ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with

Be happy - nothing sensual about flat chests lol

It is a great site!

I'm close enough to visit!

Cheryl

Like that.

At about 1 a.m. this morning, cat firmly planted adjacent to my backside, it occurred to me that perhaps it was being suggested that we donate the leftover gift card dollars, rather than assigning a member of the women's shelter to find my Boob Twin. Well, I'm afraid I flunked that test. I spent it all on ME ME ME! ... sorry.

Very good. Are you sure you've never done this?

After all that, you're going to need a 'cup' or two of

You got that right honey. I figured that was the point of the luncheon mid day after having spent the morning personality testing but you're right. I might need some reinforcement later on.

It's all female. If it had been mixed I would have come in with a grey floor length flannel nightie.

Where it comes from ... well, I've been wondering about that. My guess is that it comes from the breast cancer people. All those non profit sector people hang together, and my boss runs. The breast cancer marathons are really big here. Same with the women's sherlter. The npo's are always coming up with bizarre fund raising ideas and 'innovative' ways to motivate staff, etc. That's just a guess though. dora

And toss in something about being more than just frills and lace, providing real support.

Tara