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Yeah, but it's not Aida. That's the sticking point here. Aida and the evenweaves/linens are 'counted' differently. Since the evenweaves/ linens are usually stitched '2 over 2' (two strands of floss over two threads in fabric), a 32 count evenweave is equivalent to a 16 count Aida, a 36 count evenweave is equal to an 18 count Aida, 28 to

14 Aida, etc., etc.

Tracey

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Something new I learned last week, from my 74 year old aunt... When you need to see something & your head won't fit where you can eyeball it, use a hand-held mirror (example, seeing something on top of a ceiling fan while you're hanging it AND you've already wired the sucker)... Now why I didn't think of that myself...

ElastiGirl

Somewhere on that pattern, it will tell you if the 32 Ct. fabric is an even weave or aida -- It should also have info on what type of fabric the model was stitched on. Can you actually *see* the ground fabric in the model photo? Aida and even weave don't look anything alike so if it doesn't look like the aida you are used to working with, odds are it's done on an even weave. The stitch count given is NOT the inches or centimeters, it's the number of stitches high and wide in the design. The design is 47 stitches wide x 47 stitches high so it's square. On 32 count aida fabric this would make the finished design 1.5 inches square! Are you SURE it's that small? If not, then something is really wonky with the info given on the chart! Also, I have seen 32 count aida in one of the LNS I visited in Europe but I don't remember where it was. It was very pretty fabric but I bought some 22 count hardanger fabric instead :-)! If I am going to use 32 count fabric, I prefer an even weave. CiaoMeow >^;;^<

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well well.... Cross stitch over 2 threads using 2 ply threads.

I dont even understand this lol.....

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LOL LIke I said....I dont even know what evenwaeve is....I may be getting in too deep!

Im clueless now, I should stick to the kits

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Yes, but that's not Aida. It's even weave. And your original instructions call for 32 count fabric, not specifically Aida. If you want to use Aida, use 16 count. Aida is measured differently than linen and other even weaves.

Elizabeth

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I hate to burst your bubble, but if you look closely at the description, it's Belfast Linen/Cream Jobelin NOT aida. Aida stops at 22 count, which is often referred to as Hardanger cloth.

Dianne

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lookie lookie, you are right, but you werent bursting my bubble...it takes a lot to burst it...maybe I am taking it in the wrong tone but I think you could have said what you had to say a little nicer

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Thank Elizabeth, I think I get it now....basically cut the number in half!!

The pattern is probably talking about even weave. So you can do it on

16 count aida, two ply over one square or you can do it on even weave (like Belfast, for example) counting over two threads for each stitch. If you chose to do an even weave, you might want to consider a 28 count jobelan since this is your first attempt. The project will be a little bigger (so buy a slightly larger piece of fabric) but it will go easier for you.

Elizabeth

Hi Shan:

That means you use two strands of floss (out of the six in a skein), and stitch over two threads up and two threads right (or left). on evenweave or linen fabric (not aida).

Here's Joanna's great stitch diagram website. Scroll down to find the cross stitch diagrams

'll see what I mean by two threads. HTHs

Marg

OK then...next question is.....what is the actual difference between the

2? simply the count? or is it also texture?

You cross stitch over two threads of the ground using two strands of floss. The words "2 ply thread) is a misnomer. Every strand of floss is made up of two "plies". People get confused about this all the time.

Using an even weave fabric, whether linen or other fiber (including mixed fibers) takes just a tiny amount of time to get used to and then you're on your way. However, depending upon the TYPE of fabric you use, it can be harder than others. Belfast is not difficult at 32-count. Particularly if it's a light color. I wouldn't recommend using a darker fabric at 32-count for a *first* project.

Dianne

Yep, they're talking evenweave then, not Aida.

Tracey

Go here and scroll down past "fat quarter" information until you get to "weaves" and "even weaves"

Well everyone,

Looks like I have some reading to do. I appreciate everyones help in trying to get me to understand this.

Im going to do the reading before I actually start so that I have a basic idea of what I am doing. Maybe once I get the hang on it, It wont sound so confusing.

Again, thanks Y'all!!!

(no Im not a hill billy:P)

That's because the directions are poorly written and you haven't ventured forth from aida to discover what else is out there. There is no such thing as 32-count aida, so the writer just assumed the reader would know that and find an even weave that is 32-count. It's never wise to assume. :~)

Please don't think you are not ready for this pattern. You will never be ready until you give it a try. An honest try with some fits and starts until you can manage it. What have you to lose? A little time?

Dianne

I think you are quite right! I will give it a try, Ill just do some reading first!!

thanks once again, you have been wonderful!