OT - don't do it!!!

For those of you who use PCs, not MACS, do not, I repeat do not, upgrade to Windows Vista or buy a new machine with Vista installed unless you are willing to spend more money to buy new programs that allegedly run on Vista or to spend hours and hours figuring out how to make old programs and peripherals (i.e., printers and scanners) work with Vista.

More later if you want details... I need a drink!!!

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anne
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I second that.

We won't even touch it. my hubby is a computer wizz, it is a drama with Vista.

Happy Stitching Sibille

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StitchingNut

Oh Ann, thanks for the heads-up. I can almost feel your frustration. I'll have a drink for you.

mag

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Mag

anne ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with

Lol, make it two drinks from what I have heard. More people on my local group have reverted to XP in disgust. I know there were XP detractors but I have found it very, very stable. Have never had to reformat, do not get wobblies etc. I think with the disastrous 2000 and ME behind them, they finally got it right with XP and am not sure why they feel we need Vista.

I just know they will have to drag XP from my cold, dead hands lol

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lucretia borgia

Save your time for stitching and the money for stash. What I have heard so far, Microsoft should reimburse those who bought it and take it back. Must be such an absolute nightmare.

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StitchingNut

The head of our neighborhood computer club, along with several engineers that are members, all said Vista isn't worth the trouble. Programs wont work and they can't find any wonderful innovations that they can't live without.

They all said to stick with XP if you can.

But, and it's a big but, I was thinking about a laptop and when I asked in Staples what they had, they had zero with XP. Every single computer in the store was preloaded with Vista.

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Lucille

"Lucille" ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with

Do you have the disks for your current XP ? If it was for my lap top as a second computer, I think I would obtain an illegal XP is need be. That's a sure way to make MS keep XP going if enough people start doing that, and it sounds like they might.

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lucretia borgia

That probably won't work. XP remembers the computer architecture it was licensed for and if it is reinstalled, requires authorization from MS to reactivate the license.

If you reinstall because you changed something about your architecture, they'll reactive the license.

(I know this because I reformat my hard drives once a year.)

If you attempt to put it on a different computer, they won't and XP will just stop working.

Your best alternative with a laptop is to just go ahead and buy a fresh OEM copy of XP from your friendly neighborhood geek store or online, which will set you back a goodly extra sum.

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LizardGumbo

I make it a habit never EVER to buy anything from Microsoft that is still in its infancy. Frankly, it's just a rule for most geeks and geek wannabes.

I didn't get XP until Service Pack 2 came out. I'm still running Office

2000. I don't use Internet Explorer or Outlook at all.

XP had this very same issue when it was introduced, what with programs not running on it. It turned my husband's scanner into a giant paperweight because it wasn't supported and the company had no intention of supporting it.

If I didn't have to have some programs that work only on Windows for my day job AND for my designing, I'd be on Linux in a flash. Even at that, I'd still be torn between that and getting a Mac, as I'm a Mac girl at heart.

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LizardGumbo

And I didn't "fix" my XP to SP2 until this week when I needed to install the patch for DST. I trust my other-vendor antivirus, firewall, and spyware protection so never had any problems with the "holes" in SP1. And even wanting the DST patch, I was still reluctant to mess around installing all those blasted MS "fixes". Luckily, no problems so far other than the audio on here is now unreasonably loud and I can't figure out why (have the volume slider about as low as it can go and it is still louder than I want).

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Brenda Lewis

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Brenda- I thought I was the last hold-out! I haven't upgraded to SP2 yet- I know I'll have issues with my scanner for one thing. I've been waiting to get my taxes efiled before I "screw" the whole thing up with the upgrade. I tried to do it over a year ago, and my system got so flaky I had to buy a new harddrive & start over with SP1. I hope all goes well with you.

MM

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m&m

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Check your speakers - my kids have been known to turn the knob on them as high as it will go

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lewmew

We have Mac, have always had Macs and will always have Macs. Bill Gates has a captive audience and knows how to expand his wealth!

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Cheryl Isaak

PS - I had the drink for you! C

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Cheryl Isaak

A friend of mine just bought a laptop and could only find Vista, but then................. she had 11 feet of water in her house so all her other programs and peripherals were drowned and she is starting from scratch anyway. (She has been just using the computer at work for the last 18 months, but finally got around to shopping). She says it is apparently going to be quite a learning curve.

Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.

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Olwyn Mary

Oh, well, I had a clean install of XP with SP1 and 2 and all peripherals when I did it.

My old system was still on Win 95 and I wouldn't have had any need to upgrade except I was just starting on my medical transcription path and had to have cable internet, which my old box was just not capable of doing.

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LizardGumbo

Well, I haven't tried playing Civ yet. I know that went belly-up for many fans when SP2 was released, but I think the game has been patched (by now) to work.

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Brenda Lewis

The speakers are out of everyone's reach and haven't been touched in over two years (no, I don't dust them). Only the subwoofer has a volume control anyway.

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Brenda Lewis

LOL! I ALWAYS adopt the good old practice of "Wait and see" - it`s always served me well in the past, despite geekie friends sneering at my old fashioned platforms through the years. All the new platforms seem to have a lot of bugs to be ironed out first!

Pat

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Pat P

In the not too distant past, I was a non-nerdy geekess ;-) My 7 year-old PC which was running XP with just Service Pack 1 (it wasn't broke, so I didn't fix it) was having problems displaying digital images properly. There was no guarantee that a new monitor would have fixed the problem. If I had ordered the system just a few days earlier, it would've had XP and a lot of problems might have been avoided

I've reacquainted myself with non-rctn newsgroups and learned a lot about Vista. Norton Security is sooooooooo intrusive but since it's free for the next year, I'll use it. My official Adobe PDF creator wouldn't work so I've experimented with a bunch of freebies, some good, some bad and one downright nasty!!!

Since last we typed, something snapped on the shaft of my computer chair, making the chair very wobbly. The chair was replaced

Need several drinks but I've got a SAS (share-a-stitch, EGA regional seminar) meeting tonight

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anne

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