Seville oranges

Jan 24, 2010 102 Replies

Boughten is a no no, but what's wrong with gotten?

I just bought blood oranges here in MN the other day. I never really pay much attention to the seasonalness of orange varieties, so I'm not sure how much longer they'll be around.

Jinx

Yes - they looked like the best Sevilles I've seen in a number of years. I might be tempted to get some this week just to make a batch myself. (especially since I have some limes and lemons on hand and could make a batch of triple citrus marmalade.)

MargW

We have them fairly regularly here (central Ontario). It might help if you spoke to the produce manager in your store. I've been able to get products brought in, and carried regularly just by asking. They sometimes don't think there is a market for a specific product.

MargW

I use gotten all the time - as far as I know, it is correct although archaic. I have, I got, I've got, I've gotten (used as a past)

Certainly fairly common in most of Canada.

MargW

"F.James Cripwell" wrote

I was raised on Scottish marmalade, not American, so quite agree that I don't want orange jam. Unfortunately, there are no Seville oranges to be had in Regina anywhere, and haven't been for some years. I also prefer a good thick cut marmalade with larger pieces of peel to the finer shred type. There was a lemon marmalade available (also British) once upon a time. Dawne

The term boughten is unfamiliar to me. Its usage, like the old English gotten, seems to be North American. If something was not home-made I'd call it bought. There's a handy webpage which will translate (!) phrases into Geordie at where "Is that marmalade home-made or bought?" comes out as "Is that marmalyed home-myed or bowt?".

I was commenting on the 'boughten' - I doubt Bruce even hears gotten ! I hate it ! That and the inclination to say 'off of' when all that is needed is 'off' arggghh !

You need Coopers Dark Oxford Marmalade or a variety of Dundee, perhaps that is something you could bring back from Bonnie Scotland - hey it's Burns Night tonight, have a wee dram lol

Lol, I can hear them now. They were well ahead for their day, she was RC and went to church on Sundays while he prepared lunch. One Sunday he came over to ask me if I had some 'plain' flour, as opposed to Self Raising Flour (baking powder added) - I didn't and asked him what he was preparing that he specifically needed plain flour. He explained he was making a hamburger casserole and needed to thicken it and was scared if he used the Self Raising Flour that it would rise lol

Bad "English" english. That would have brought on a major fit from teachers...and my mother!

G

The thing that I hear and read lot these days is to use the noun "gift" into a verb "to gift". It really ticks me off, as well as several other misused or invented words.

G

After a tiny bit of research I see that as you say, it is bad "English" English. However, I will also state that this isn't England and it's fine here.

Just to be contrary, let me point out that the word English must always be capitalized, even if you don't approve of the way we tawk here in the states. ;%)))) Lucille

Yes, but it is doubtful you actually speak 'English" - some form of no doubt, but English ? So maybe you should use another word, not English for the way you tawk ?

I believe it is said that gotten is very olde English, but like Gillian I know my grandmother would have whacked me if I had said it! It sounds horrible to me, so I won't be using it lol

If you can come up with a good name that isn't difficult to put into a sentence, it would be fine with me.

You're the one who needs to find a new word, Gillian and I speak English lol

As far as I'm concerned, if my grandmother called it English, my teachers called it English and I call it English, no change needs to be made. You're the one that thinks it's wrong. ;*)

Lucille

I know; what do you expect when I hadn't had my second cup of tea! LOL

Gill

You better RD&H. For me Yank means pull or schlep, or a baseball team or a very old and not very often used word for a person. Besides that, the Yankees were only Northerners, which would insult everyone else.

Try again, maybe something will come up that actually isn't a problem for you.

I know it irks you that we actually dare to call our language English, but it was the English who came up with the name for the language when they came to the America, and it would be up to them to change it now. lol

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