Copyrights Revisited

I know we discussed the subject into the ground, but I just read the copyright notice on a new applique quilt book I bought (at the Super Bowl Sunday Sale, ya know)....anyway, I just wanted to share this because I thought it was unusual.

The copyright graph expressly forbade mechanical reproduction of any pages, et cetera, but closed with the sentence "Hand tracing for personal use is permitted."

Wouldn't it be kind of useless if you couldn't hand-trace from an applique book?

Sherry

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Sherry
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Joanna

Authors are free to write whatever they wish as a copyright statement. It doesn't mean they could actually defend their position in a court of law.

Fair use covers the owner of a book being able to copy pages out for their own personal use. I doubt a pattern designers desire trumps that.

marcella

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Marcella Peek

so if I want to cut a pattern apart to use it... I have to spend hours manually copying it by hand -- instead of just making a copy on my scanner or a copy machine? If that were enforceable.... any designer who had those rules would certainly not have my business!

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Kate in MI

Thanks for your comments, all. I was the staunch supporter of copyright in the other thread, but this kind of got me. My first thought was "I paid $22.95 for this 48-page book. I can line the bird cage with it if I want to." This just must be legal-ese for "Don't loan the book out and let everybody else handtrace it." I had started reading "the fine print" after our earlier discussion out of curiousity. Another quilt pattern said "Pattern designed by Jane Doe; she was inspired for the center block from by John Doe." Giving credit where credit is due, probably by permission, I thought. And today I learned what a "tucker" is. I just learn lots of good stuff from you guys. Sherry

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Sherry

Howdy!

IF you invite the designer/author into your home while you copy it for your own purposes....

Really, this isn't that hard; you buy it to use it as a part of normal or regular quilting. All the other stuff is details, the authors trying to protect their butts, or profits, from the skullduggery of unscrupulous or sometimes just not-thinking people. Don't copy it for others; use it for yourself. However, if you ask the neighbor's 8-yr.old, who loves art & is a wiz at copying, to help you- we're gonna' tell, we're gonna' te-ell!

R/Sandy - ... still a fan of Metallica & the way they sicced napster

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Sandy Ellison

Oh for goodness sake. If you don't have to pay your income taxes unless you're nominated as Secretary of something, who cares if you run a copy of a page you paid for in your own scanner? If you get caught, you can always say it was an honest mistake and you didn't understand and pay (without interest, penalty or prison) - only after your nomination is certain. Polly (irked)

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Polly Esther

Polly: Sometimes my server does not filter spam. It happens, and sometimes it is really funny! For example, the subject line immediately after your (irked) post says: "Look ... Hidden Spy Cams!"

So, of course I had a vision of Polly caught on a Spy Cam as she copied a page for her own personal use ... maybe to line a bird cage!

LOL in Virginia, PAT

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Pat in Virginia

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