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good to see you back Karlee.

You have been missed and though of often.

Dee in Oz

Hi Karlee, sorry you had to come back for such a reason.

But I have to disagree with you. I've been on this group on and off for more than 10 years (under another name, for those of you who know that "the black rose" has only been here a few years). It's always been like this. Always. There are periods of relative peace, and God bless you for remembering that more than anything else.

I'm ignoring the strife, because my life is so stressful right now that I'm starting to wake up in tears. You don't need any more on your plate either.

May God bless and keep your husband safe until he can come home to your loving arms.

Welcome back, Karlee -- I wish it could have been for longer, though. Just ignore the griping; we go through this from time to time every couple of years, but it always passes.

Being relatively new here, this is my first "snipping" session. It almost drove me off but I am staying to enjoy the positive and loving part of the group. I can toss the rest out with the trash.

God bless you, your dear husband and your family. Wish I could have been part of your hug Karlee.

Mary

Karlee,

It has been awhile since we have seen you around. And being one who is in and out, I wonder where and what happened to some of the ones who used to be around.

If I can do this gently, I'll do my best. Being in the military does bring on some personal advantages and disadvantages to one's prior life which you have mentioned in your note specifically and indirectly by the way the post was written. This is not the same Karlee I remember reading posts from a couple of years ago. And with that, I am appalled that you would come back with such a hateful post as well as words not becoming of a lady. I question whether you had read several posts from others who were putting it in the past already. Apologies were expressed and from what I am reading, some of the hurt feelings already disappating only to possibly resurface for those involved as well as bringing on feelings for those who don't already know you for the person that you were a couple of years ago.

I think it is unfair that you are assuming--at least from my interpretation of the post--that ALL the members of the group are now self centered, me first attitude type of people which couldn't be further from the truth. This group has put together a lot of hug quilts in the past year or two and have come together to make over 100 quilts in a short period of time for those displaced by Hurricane Katrina. So self centered or selfish does not describe those who have given to hug quilts recently or in the past.

I can relate to having a spouse or family member overseas and the hardships involved for those in military families. I have lived very near families who have a loved one away, I have taught students who have a mom or dad away from them for long periods of time. I can see in your post that you are angry about a lot of things other than this quilt as that is what I saw with those around me. And like others in the group who have a full plate, it sounds like yours is really overflowing.

I could be wrong but I don't think this post was appropriate to have posted from someone who has been inactive with this group's dynamics for the past year or more. Facts are what we need to figure out and search for prior to releasing emotions upon others. That is the only way to finding out what happened and what answers you are looking for instead of making your decisions based on what you are hearing and interpretating from what you are hearing.

With that said, our thoughts are with you and your husband as well as your children.

Marilyn

How well you put this all Marilyn. We are a family, we squabble and make up or avoid the ones we feel ill towards. You must remember the little ins and outs from when you were a member Karlee. Heck, you were in the middle of a number of them yourself! :) And still, when push comes to shove we are there for one another, in ways that really count. I cant tell you how many times these kind folks have made my day bearable with their gracious good humor and common sense. I cannot and will not ever think of these people in the same harsh terms you *impute them with. Diana

I had this same thought as well Diana. Family. I love my family, my husband, kids, mom. But we don't always get along and we don't always see eye to eye. In fact, sometimes it can get down right ugly around here, especially between the kids. Ironically, in my own family dynamic, as well as what I have seen here on this group - I can pick on my brother, but don't YOU dare pick on my little brother. They may tear each other apart at times - but when push comes to shove or when someone who doesn't love them the way they really love each other comes to push - WATCH OUT! And I have seen the same thing here in this group.

I don't see eye to eye with every body and every thing on this group - but I can darn well guarantee you that if anyone ever came to push me - I'd want (and most likely have) everyone on this group behind me to back me up!

We all get our feelings hurt or get mad sometimes about things that (later on down the road) we can look back at and think, "Well, that really wasn't THAT big of a deal." And be remorseful about it, talk and hug and work things out and go on with life. It's true in my own family, it's true at school, at work and it certainly is true here in this group I believe.

It may sound childish, but it always helps to remember what we taught, or tried to teach our children. Before you respond or act - step back, take a few deep breaths and ask yourself, "Is it really necessary?" Would you be better served by keeping your mouth shut, walking away, cooling off, considering the source or just letting it go?

I think we've all been there, done that - at one or more points in our lives.

Hugs, Tina

I totally agree and I'm going to take a break for a while too. Maybe it will be better in a few weeks or month. It was nice to hear from you!! Take Care Joanna

nice to see you here again, Karlee. you have been missed. try not to take all this nonsense too seriously. it will pass, as the occasional bickering always does. eventually the ones with 'hurt feelings' will no longer feel the need to have the last word. i'm glad you got the rctq hug to wrap up in during those really awful days. i too have my hug and i use it everyday in someway or another. still grinning, jeanne this group.

ok I looked up the word "ploink" and found it means everything from dropping a pebble in the water sound to.... well some things that a lady just does not say or do in public NGs

~KK in BC~ still without a clear knowledge of the meaning of the word ploink????

Then you've never met my SIL!

Well said, Marilyn.=20

-Irene

-------------- You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.=20

--Mae West=20

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As an army wife from the first gulf war and a proud ex-Army wife...

I think you are over-reacting.

I haven't been able to read the newsgroup in several days because I have been actively helping victims of Katrina.... but I think I am glad I missed the drama. May God grant peace to every soul.

I pray that your husband will be safely returned to you.

Tricia

Amen to that. Misdirected anger is only a waste of energy. Thanks for adding some sanity Ms. Black Rose.

Ah! Ms. Marilyn you are a treasure and you put everything in such a clear and lucid light. Thank you for being so thoughtful and knowledgeable.

Yes ma'am you surely did use the word and used it very well indeed.

Yes ma'am it is and I'm so glad it's over.