Reno is labeled as "The Biggest Little City in the World." There are times when its isolation and provincialism crack me up --
Walked into the teacher workroom in the public school where I teach. Saw a small box of about 5 reams of paper on the counter. It was labeled in magic marker as being defective and only good as scrap paper. It's A4 paper!! Says so right on the box and on each ream! It was purchased at K-Mart. The zany part is that all the copiers' paper trays can be easily adjusted by just pushing the little guide tabs in the paper drawers. That's how we change the drawers for legal paper.
So a teacher in Reno thinks A4 paper is "defective." Yes, it is a small town. . . . . Maybe they think legal paper is "defective" also.
A4 is 8.3" x 11.7" (210 mm x 297 mm), so it is a bit different. It is one of the ISO standard sizes commonly used in other countries. See for more information.
Might be the European size, unless A4 simply means standard business size whatever that is. Shows you how clueless I am! But European standard is slightly longer and narrower than US standard, about 8 1/4 X 11 3/4. (Makes me crazy when I get something on US paper that won't fit in my European plastic pockets.) Roberta in D
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I think some people just have no connection with the outside world. :S Just because A4 isn't a commonly-used size in the US doesn't mean it's defective. Sheesh.
As a user of A4 paper (after all, that is what we have over here ), I agree it is not defective. However, if you have your software set up to write close to the edges of the printable area of letter paper, you can lose text by printing onto A4.
At home, most people could probably handle this, but in a place like a school were many people might use the same printer from a variety of computers I think it is smart not to put it in the printer/copier.
A4 paper is approx 11.3/4 x 8.1/4 approx. or in mm.s 297 x 210, according to what my computer paper setting bit says.
That is the standard size of paper here in the UK. We changed from the shorter fatter stuff ages ago. A3 is twice as big and A5 is A4 cut in half. When I use the Carol Doak 11 x 8.1/2 paper I have to reset my computer and slide the slider in the printer.
If anyone thought it was defective here we would be paperless!
So what do you use? Old fashioned fullscap? A4 seems to be the standard for most of the world, not just Europe. About the only things that still comes on non-A4 paper in our neck of the woods is the bank statement, which comes on a page size peculiar to the Royal Bank of Scotland, as far as I can make out! The Halifax and Nationwide statements come on A4, as do most bills.
About 20 years ago the local paper mill found a whole ton (literally - a ton!) of copier paper cut to fullscap: they donated it to the school as it had a copier that would cope with it. I had the devils own job even then finding a lever arch file for it, and had to remember to reset the margins on my computer to print out work sheets and hand outs narrow enough to photocopy at school. Mind you, it left the kids plenty of top and bottom margin for note scribbling!
If you find any more 'defective' paper, just send it to me: I can always use paper! ;)
I don't know who left the box of paper. I was the only one in the room. So I really couldn't talk to anybody about changing the copier tray. Paper sizes are also labeled on the glass surface of the copier. A4 and A5 are both included. I think many staff members already know how to change to copier tray -- we use 8½x11 and legal. Then sometimes people have to change the copier trays to put the paper in landscape or portrait.
Gee, I knew what A4 was years ago, I'm thinking maybe when I was in high school in the 60's. Or maybe when I was teaching in the same town in the
70's. We also used it sometimes on our federal accounts. I've never known anyone who DIDN'T know that A4, A5, etc. were different sizes of paper. They didn't necessarily know the exact size, but they knew it was different sized paper. They certainly didn't call something defective just because it was different.
I don't agree with you that most people in the US don't know what to do with A4 paper. Even some of my 4th graders knew what it was. But those 4th graders who knew had lived in large, VERY diverse cities outside Nevada. I'm used to living in a much more diverse, highly technical, more highly educated part of the country. (Before that starts another topic -- there was a major conference at UNR recently about how to get the high school graduation rate up and have more Nevadans attend college. The articles and speeches are still probably available in the Reno Gazette-Journal online.)
ROFLOL!!!! Send it over here - A4 is all we use - oh occasionally we use the big stuff - B2?? C3?? Can't remember what it's called but it's like 2 and a bit A4s joined together
Ive just been given some paper for doing posters, and the one thats a bit bigger than A3 is labelled A2. Haven't measured it but it has a border round and you could put an A3 piece in the middle and it wouldn't be lost. I presume the big poster size that printed posters come in is A1.
Oh...that makes sense !!! And I , too, like pictures to learn from...it is just that I'm glad I don't have to learn it yet ! We tried the metric system a bit here ( USA ) but it just never did catch on. LOL
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