TSWLTH- so very true!!!

Polly, I think that's a better deal than JoAnns. I'll have to check it out. Although, I almost always use 60 mm blades. I like them so much better than

Donna

ok, i'm trying a top post. i got a nasty note from someone...cant remember who, sorry i'm a newbie...but will see if this is "correct".

Michael's used to give you the discount with a Joann's coupon, cuz they wanted your business, but even they wont do it on sale items any longer. such a pity.

amy

TSWLTH

thanks, Taria! i was beginning to think my XDH was lurking.... {{{{shivers}}}} i will vow to post where the curser blinks from now on!!! amy

I think our store here in Reno started that policy about two years ago. Probably more like three years ago -- I remember where I was teaching at the time. I went through the same situation at the cutting table. What a surprise that was! And I still remember.

Our Reno Joann's and the one in Carson City are the only local ones within 2 hours. There is now a JoAnn's ETC SuperStore in Roseville, just this side of Sacramento -- two hours away.

Our local JoAnn's stores have gotten cleaner. They are now even getting decent fabric -- Hoffman, Blank, etc.

For a while the bathroom was closed. They said someone somewhere in the country complained that there was no handicapped access to a JoAnn's bathroom, so they closed them all. But I heard someone asking for the key the other day. So now money isn't the only thing we can piss away there again.

Our Sparks, Nevada, Hancock's is one that is not closing. Even they are getting name-brand quilting fabrics. And the three Ben Franklins turned their fabric departments totally into quilting shops. Nothing but quality fabrics on bolts there (except for the Hershey's fabric panel I found buried under the flat folds).

Why did tehy dhshose you to pick on? Sometimes I'm stymied by some posters. We have gals on here that have never top posted and some that never use capital letters and some that use a lot of capital letters.

Have they named themselves the Moderator of a NON MODERATED newsgroup? We don't have Moderators here-just a lot of named Queens, Empresses, Lady-in-Waiting, etc, etc, etc.

Sure glad you spoke up.

thank you, thank you, thank you! i now name you Grand Empress of the RCTQ!!! G.E.Butterfly, my hero!!! LOL! thanks! amy

HHhhmmmm, don't think I've been title "hero" or "Grand Empress" on here yet. Wonder how that will affect/reflect on the various Queen and Madame Butterfly Titles I have. Sure glad I don't have to wear sashes with each name on it every day. I'd be switching sashes all day to suit the posts:)

Butterfly

Butterfly, you just wear'em all. You would be fully clothed just with your sashes!

Donna in Idaho!

That must be a fairly recent policy change Leslie. I went in the other day to pick up some notions & tried to use a Michael's coupon for the most expensive item & the cashier couldn't get it to work. She said for the past week the Michael's coupons haven't worked, so she thought perhaps TSWLTH was no longer honoring them. Wouldn't you think they'd let the employees know? I don't know if it was just her or ? I don't go often enough for it to bother me, but they are handy to use if you want to pick up books.

The store near my house has a new manager. He's from L.A. & he makes & designs cartoon characters costumes. When he told me that, I said "and here you are at JoAnns!" He said JoAnns recruited him & they are paying him benefits, which he wasn't getting as a free lance costume designer. Still makes me scratch my head, but he was very nice. Store still looks like a pig pen!

Disregad nasty notes. Honestly this is one of the very few newgroups on the entirity of usenet where topposting gets by without the poster being flamed to ash, indeed it is the only one I have ever heard of where it is actually encouraged. I have to think each and every time to top post. Usually when I want to address more than one point I just say heck with it and intersperse because it is clearer to _me_ that way. In fact the only reason that I go along with the top posting convention here is because this is a high traffic group and propagation (especially recently) is often crap. So leaving more unclipped text than is customary elsewhere is simple courtesy here. So putting one paragraph at the top of 200 lines rather than the bottom makes sense. Though if I am only addressing two lines out of those two hundred, and those two lines will stand on their own, I'll still snip. It's the lizard backbrain that is convinced that somebody who is paying by the minute will reach through the moniter and cut off the fingers.

I've come to really hate franchise stores of all kinds. No matter what they do they can only address the law of averages instead of the needs of the community they are in. So if the international society of mudflap artists NYC decides to do a drive to put art mudflaps on as many vehicles as they can, we will be seeing mudflap material in Joann's until 2025 regardless of whether or not we have a single mudflap artist in town. Don't even get me started on how franchises do right by you until they have eliminated the competition, and then do whatever they can legally get away with to maximize profits.

The Store We Love To Hate, meaning Joann's.

NightMist

thanks for the translation!!

i much prefer my LQS to any big chain store. amy

AAaarrrrrhhhhhhggggggggggggggggg......

Michael's coupons will not scan at any Jo-Ann's, they have to be input manually, always have had to be. sigh. And it is supposed to be something that Michael's does carry (like books/magazines etc.) You used to be able to use the coupons on most anything, but not for the last couple of years. If in doubt about any chain store policy, contact the store headquarters. You can get an "800" number from most stores, if they won't give it to you, get on line and go to the company website, customer service. Voice your complaint, including inability to get a customer service phone number. Also, find out as much as you can about the upper level management people and make noise. Many of these companies will eventually listen to customers who make noise, but will not listen to employees at all. sigh.

Jo-Ann's (actually Fabric Centers of America which became Jo-Ann's) bought out So-Fro/House of Fabrics several years ago supposedly because they wanted both the locations and the people (store managers, etc). Then then proceeded to drive out many of the managers, refuse to promote assistant managers and close a lot of the locations. yeah, they wanted them, right? Stores that were primarily fabric stores, doing a lot of business in fabric, with some crafts to help make profits were driven into a mess. sigh. Been there, done that in the front line. The upper level management no longer knows much about what is really going on in the stores themselves and only care about the profit margin and making money. They can't get and keep qualified personnel for what they are paying and the demands made on the store level managers. The store where I worked (for over 6 1/2 years, most of that time as an assistant manager, supposedly being trained to be a manager) was a House of Fabrics district headquarters store for a while. The manager knew fabric and knew what he didn't know and to hire people who did know how to help customers and answer all sorts of questions. We insisted that the people we hired had to have some fabric knowledge and knowledge of yard measurements and such. No longer allowed. People get hired who don't know the difference between thread and string, or the difference between a yard and a foot. sigh. After being a manager, with HofF and then Jo-Ann's for over 36 years this manager left the company. And the store went through, I think, 6 managers in the next 4 months. I was basically told that I wasn't qualified to even enter the "manager training program" even though I had done most of the managing of that store for the last year or so I was there, and when Jo-Ann's took it over was told that I was basically already being trained "to have 'your' own store".

Sorry for the rant...... there is so much more going on behind the scenes at large chains.. I should have known to get out sooner when we had to wear nametags that said "We inspire Creativity" on our "uniforms". (Which no one at the home office seemed to see the irony in................)

Pati, in Phx

Pauline wrote:

Thank you, Pati. Very interesting to read the 'rest of the story'. Polly

i totally agree....my sister worked for Joanns for a xmas season years ago. she didnt mind being a salesperson, but when they asked her to "fill in" as the asst mgr, she refused, smart girl IMO. she saw how horrible they were to the one that left, and said no way! amy