New law in Washington: transporting wood

No doubt the permits will be combined. If you do not give consent to search, you come under the "plain view" interpretation, or probable cause must be furnished.

Happy to see you directing your ire against the proper source - lawmakers, rather than law enforcement. Like Arch, I feel that the huggers probably had a hand in this, too. Protectionism by the back door. Tough constituency to overcome, what with "environmentalism" serving as the Roman church served during the middle ages. Only thing tougher to fight would be an Al Sharpton charge that harvesting wood is demographically demonstrated as racist....

but have less chance of cracking her stand..

mac

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It is Washington house bill 1406S and requires a permit for transporting specialized forest products.

There are limits to the amount of specialized forest products a person can have without a permit (I.e. you can transport 5 Christmas trees without a permit). The important part is that the law only affects the initial transporter of the wood. The law provides a means for tracing the sale of specific forest products back to the person transporting them out of the forest. If what you are transporting is below the limits set by the law, or if you are not selling the wood, than the law does not have much of an effect. I don't think that this law will bother us turners to a large degree.

Bill #1406, 2005:

I didn't see any upper limits to the quantity or size or any stipulation about selling or not. The two parts that concerned me are:

Realize that (a) says "logs _less_ than 8' in length" and (b) says "One _or_ more..." It doesn't matter the size _if_ the wood is "suitable for purposes of making... ornamental boxes". It doesn't mean that as long as you don't make an ornamental box it's OK, it says if it's _suitable_ for making musical instruments or ornamental boxes. Who is to determine suitability?

You'll notice (2) states possession, transportation, and possession and transportation - mentions nothing about any act or intent to sell.

I've read the bill a few times but not being a legal eagle some of the whereas's and heretofor's go beyond how much effort I desire to put into figuring it all out. Also, I'm an Oregonian so at the present this wouldn't affect me - I only offered it up for our Washington residents and others who might be interested. If you found some size, quantity or use limitations in the bill that might alleviate my concerns for woodturners then please post a folllow up.

In article , "George" wrote: ..

Maybe, but it was the major property owners that pushed it. Olympic Resources (Pope and Talbut) has lost $10's of thousands in figured Maple in that last couple of years.

This is a follow up to the older law on moving Cedar, back when Cedar theft starting being such a problem.

And if anyone needs some Big Leaf Maple, let me know and I'll give you some starters. It's practically a weed around here. Sheesh!

Yes Lobby I agree - AAMOF, my daughter and I started both an Oregon White Oak and a Big Leaf Maple early this spring from seeds that had sprouted in our yard - both now in a large pot in our kitchen window. Wow, the Maple is easily 2 or 3 times taller than the oak - now to just start nicking the little sucker to create some burls...

Either that or attempt to banzai it - which seriously has crossed my mind.

====> It's ok as long as you keep it under five pounds of cedar twigs. Doesn't mean they can't stop you and weigh them and search your rig, (Probable cause, don't ya know -- If he's got one twig of cedar he must have more secreted in the vehicle!) They'll probably have to seize your rig and impound it while a more thorough search is made.

Leif

Then they'll find the single marijuana seed and he'll go to a *Federal* Pen for 20 to Life!!

I've got a volunteer in the front yard. It's about 5 years old now and the neighbor is still begging me to cut it down. I kinda like it, but I pull up all its offspring.

Do you mean "bonsai"? Makes a difference when you go looking for information

"banzai" is what Japanese soldiers shouted just before committing suicide by Marine.

:) You know I didn't think that looked quite right - but my auto-speller prompted me to spell it that way. Yes, I meant bonsai. Anyone know what a Big Leaf Maple would do when bonsai'd?

Other than look silly with a spindly trunk and humongous leaves?

Which is what they look like when they're coming up all over the lawn. Hey they're not weeds, they're a Bonsai Garden!

Hybrids are in style, the Maple-Bonsai might resemble a Toyota with a Mack truck 'bull dog' radiator cap. Or maybe a Bon Ami-Bonsai with a chick that 'hasn't scratched yet' No, I haven't got into the cooking gin, nor Leif's bootleg LDD yet.

Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter

Or they WILL be as soon as I get done mowing. ;-)

Bill

Become a small-leaf maple? Only partially joking- I know fruit trees that are bonsai often produce tiny fruits.

If it survives my attempts I'll post pics in a year or two.