soap treating of wood

Reyd, I have sent some information to your email address

George

thats why Im asking, I read that. It doesnt have the parts I'm interested in, The effects of it on foodware, will it stay in the wood and create foam every time something wet is in it, how far into the wood will it penetrate, how long do I need to leave it on for it to soak. etc in article ZtiMb.2874$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com, Bruce Ferguson at snipped-for-privacy@pacbell.net wrote on 1/11/04 12:37 PM:

No effect on foodware. I trust you wash out salad bowls once a year or so!

*G*

No it won't create foam when something wet is put in it. The amount of LDD that stays in the wood is almost infinitesimal as it is basically turned and sanded away in the final process.

It penetrates only a few cells deep.

Long soaking times are not necessary unless you are stopping work on the piece. Then it is best to leave it in the solution.

HTH,

at

so you submerge it? or can i just coat it on the lathe. Wouldn't you need to apply it at the end instead then if it only goes a few cells deep?(on the

site he says it conditions the wood andmakes it even better to turn, but woulnt that only last a little while(thefirst few cuts) I'm confused as usual:-/in article snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com, Leif Thorvaldson at snipped-for-privacy@mashell.com wrote on 1/11/04 3:38 PM:> No effect on foodware. I trust you wash out salad bowls once a year or so! > *G*>

*PEG- Poly Ethylene Glycol. Toxic, oily, dangerous to house pets, toxic, somewhat expensive, did I mention that it's TOXIC? However, it works wonders for stabilizing fresh cut woods to avoid checking and splitting.

vic

Painting it on is not effective in my experience. I immerse the blank, partially completed turning in the LDD solution. Yes, Ron is right. LDD's greatness encompasses the fact that it stabilizes and conditions the wood. You are correct that it would seem to have turned off whatever LDD there was and that is why I suggest instant finishing, or sealing when you are done with the piece. It takes a leap of faith to follow these instructions thoroughly. You are new to woodturning so I don't have to fight the old ways in you. The old-timer turners never met a chuck of wood that they didn't like to swab with endcote/endseal/anchorseal and let dry for a couple of years! In my home town of Eatonville, WA we have a hobby of watching the fourway stop light blink on and off, but sitting and watching wood dry is a bit much! *G*

Leif

Ferguson

PEG is indigestible and food safe - included in pharmaceuticals and cosmetics. You're probably thinking of ethylene glycol, which was used in antifreeze. Run a quick net search or look at almost any lotion in the cabinet and you'll find some length of PEG, commonly 50 to 150 .

It won't however, accept most finishes, and discolors the wood.

Thanks George. Glad you caught the error. Yes, I did mean ethylene glycol or antifreeze.

vic

Ill try it, If I ever manage to get some green wood(hopefully I'll get some alder in the next month or so.). for as much fun as watching the fourway stop.

.in article snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com, Leif Thorvaldson at snipped-for-privacy@mashell.com wrote on 1/11/04 10:35 PM:

LDD is useful with "dry" wood also.

This sounds intriguing and I'm going to try it tomorrow. I am turning mostly green wood as I am learning so don't want to waste my attempts on expensive wood. I got your instructions out of the files section. Against your instructions, I am trying one thing different, Leif. We have no Costco in town or within 80 miles of town so I bought some blue generic detergent from a local grocer. I have already mixed it

50/50 with water and will give it a go tomorrow unless you say STOP, that you know the blue stuff won't work. Otherwise I will play with it for awhile and see what happens. I'm very slow at turning so hopefully I can get far enough without the wood warping before I give it another dunk.

Earl

Hi, Earl. Good luck with your attempt. Three comments:

a. "Blue" detergent? Is it for dishwashing? Also, some turners have experienced color transfer to their turning. You might try a bit of it on a sample of the wood. Leave it on for an hour or so and then wipe off. See if the blue transfers to the wood.

b. I, too, am not a production turner; but, I would recommend returning your turning to the solution if you are going to be away from it for any period of time e.g., couple of hours.

Good luck! Any more questions probably ought to be sent directly to me as there are *GASP* unbelievers in this newsgroup! Grouchy fellows, too! *G*

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It stabilizes the wood and makes it easier to cut with the gouge, etc. Less dust.