Stronghold chuck jaws, whats wrong with this picture.

I think that we have a book idea here. Lathe projects where the object is something other than making a bowl, hollow form, spindle, etc.

Heck -- sometimes we start out making a bowl and end up with a very large napkin ring instead. Maybe that sort of thing should be included as well?

Bill

Bill

"Bruce Barnett" wrote: Perhaps we should form a committee on rules for forming committies who set rules for committes that specify rules for the contests. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ First, we need to decide on the shape of the table that the committee will sit around. But, we can't do that until your Committee on Rules for Forming Committees is formed.

I used to belong to the Society for the Abolition of Abolition Societies, but that membership didn't last long.

I also used to belong to a group whose focus narrowed, until its sole activity was to run itself. There was a sizeable membership that continued to attend meetings, and serve on committees without noticing this.

Hi George

Your right about that but, you sure can take fatter slices and cut faster with soft wet wood than with hard and dry IMO.

Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo

George wrote:

Hi Arch

Thanks for the heads up, never even considered all those. but did think of maybe lawyer involvement not to forget insurance , there must be some more I'm sure.

Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo

Arch wrote:

it was never personal for me. i have no ego invested in this. its just about the turning and the ideas. .....so it was just a misunderstanding then. i hope there are no hard feelings.

On Wed, 4 May 2005 21:35:32 -0700, Bill Rubenstein wrote (in message ):

that sounds like a lot of fun. as well as a great way to waste wood.

Hi Neill, after all of this I think you should chuck the Oneways and look into the Vicmarcs. But then again, I might be a little biased.

No doubt the rules committee will have to level the field. If the game is won by filling the bag, thin cuts with fast advance make great mats of "Afro" shavings. You're getting more air than wood, but fills up fast. That is a bit tougher with wet, because they pack....

George... I was thinking last night about your question regarding choice of gouges.. I think the rules committee will have to determine your handicap and supply you with a tool to help level the playing field.. I was thinking something in the order of a plastic spoon with a finger nail grind??

mac

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On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:59:27 -0700, Owen Lowe wrote (in message ):

LOL! verry funny Owen! i would get a vic but i dont like the jaws lol! seriously though i actually own a vic 120. its one of my 3 main chucks. i use it for the big wood jaw plates for finnishing bowl bottoms. its a nice chuck but i never have been able to figure out why vic owners seem to think they are so supirior.

Well... my likes are the enclosed back, allen key "wrench", and high quality. (I was able to purchase my Vic back when Southern Woodturning Supply in Australia was exporting and the US:AUS dollar conversion was in our favor - as I recall my Vic was about $160 including 10 day shipping so price was also a motivating factor in Vic's favor.) As to jaws, I have the standard 2", Shark jaws, stepped dovetail and long nose. I use the first 3 frequently and the long nose set was purchased before they came out with their little 1" dovetails - which I'd get now in place of the long-nose. Between the standard jaws and the stepped dovetails, I can do all that I generally need to. I like the Shark jaws for big, honkin', green wood hunks that need a secure hold. The 1" dovetails would be nice for doing little finials and tops and such.

yea thats when i got mine too. couldnt resist the price. it is a nice chuck.

I have some experience with that! Well, actually, mine ended up looking more like a wooden "c" clip.

But the principle (and velocities) are the same.

;-)

Bill

Well, I missed most of this thread as it was going on, and was surprised to see so much activity. For me, I use a mortice. The closer the mortice (opening)is in size to the jaw size, the better the hold is. I would imagion the same is true with a tennon. If I could get more money for the bowls with the mortice removed, I would take the extra time to do it, but the buyers don't see any difference, so I won't waste my time. robo hippy

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"The buyers don't see any difference".......Does this mean you have offered properly finished bowls and the buying public rejected them and opted for your bowls with the mortice still apparent?

Properly finished???? Oh, you mean doing it the same way that you do it. I have offered bowls with the mortice remaining, and with it removed. The deciding factors, are shape, color, and character of the wood. Price is some what of a factor, but never has the way the bottom was finished had an influence on choice. If both are clean, sanded and finished (no tear out left), and the shapes are the same, it makes almost no difference to the buyer. If I remove the mortice, I have to charge more. If they look the same, but one costs more, which one would you buy? robo hippy

Simple. I'd buy the one that showed the woodturner cared enough to remove ALL evidence of how the item was held on the lathe. I do that to all my turnings just as a matter of pride and if it takes me a couple more minutes to do so then that is time well spent in my opinion. YMMV..........

my "research" indicates that things like bottom treatment, wall thickness, even walls, etc. are mainly important to another turner.. and you don't sell bowls to a turner.. *g*

In my personal experience, folks are attracted to color, shape, general appearance and feel... they don't seem to notice what the bottom of the bowl looks like, providing it allows the bowl to sit flat and has been sanded and finished to match the rest of the bowl..

I talked to a turned at a fair that thought that the bottom treatment and finish that he's taken years to perfect seemed to be more of a detriment to sales, as it not only adds to the price, but folks didn't seem to get the "hand made" feeling from them.. (I thought that they were fantastic, almost works of art in simple walnut bowls, but didn't buy anything)

mac

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Personally, I like the gal on Wood Central who burns bison silhouettes into her platters. I think we turners should adopt burned bison as the new "standard of excellence...."