tapers

I am trying to identify a taper on a drive centre and it does not appear to be a Morse taper. The dimensions I have are as follows:

Length of taper 40mm (1.575") Large diameter 12mm (0.472") Small diameter 10.27mm (0.404")

I measured the diameters as near the end of the taper as I could so please do not take these measurements as gospel - they are there or thereabouts.

I suspect the taper is metric but I cannot find a source to prove this.

Can anyone offer any help?

Regards, T.

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Trevor
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Amount of taper: 0.068" Taper per inch of length: 0.0432-

I think you have a #1 Morse taper. I measured one of mine: length of taper 1.850" large diameter 0.500" small diameter 0.420" amount of taper: 0.080" taper per inch of length: 0.0432+

In other words, the degree of taper on yours is essentially the same as the degree of taper on mine. Yours has a bit more at the narrow end than mine, and a bit less at the fat end, and it's shorter overall, but the angles are the same. I *know* mine is a #1 Morse. Sounds to me like yours is too.

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Doug Miller

Beg , buy, borrow or steal a MT1 tapered fitment. Clean male & female tapers. Chalk or ink the male taper. insert into spindle and twist once. remove straight out. If the coating is smeared evenly, that's your taper. In shorter words, fit , instead of measure.

Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter

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Arch

"Arch" wrote: (clip) In shorter words, fit , instead of measure. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arch, that is much easier to do now that Doug has spoken.

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Leo Lichtman

Right Leo, ....and even easier if there is a machinist's handbook on the coffee table.;) I shudda suggested getting MT1 & MT2 to try, before Doug spoke.

Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter

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Arch

Thanks for the info. I will borrow a MT sleeve and check it against that.

I also have a revolving centre, again with strange dimensions (length). Is it possible that this may be a #2MT. Again I will try and borrow a suitable sleeve to try it.

The dimensions are:

Length 50mm (1.968") Large diameter 17mm (0.669") Small diameter 14.5mm (0.571")

Thanks again for your help.

Regards, T

Reply to
Trevor

Taper = 0.669 - 0.571 = 0.098" Taper per inch of length = 0.098 / 1.968 = 0.0498 Using the metric figures, taper per mm comes out at exactly 0.05 (2.5mm taper along 50 mm length).

I think this is not a #2 MT. Here are my measurements on a drive center that came with my #2 MT lathe:

Length 2.500 Large dia: 0.700" Small dia: 0.579" Taper = 0.700 - 0.579 = 0.121" Taper per inch of length = 0.121 / 2.500 = 0.484

Reply to
Doug Miller

here are the 'theoretical' dimensions for a Morse #2 taper, may be of some help

CBII

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- Taper Name Large Taper/ Taper/ Angle Small Length End Foot Inch From End Center

------------------------------------------------------------------------- #2 Morse 0.7000 .5994 . 0500 1.4307 0.5720 2.56

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Reply to
cueboy2

Oops, decimal point in the wrong place. Should be 0.0484. Sorry.

Reply to
Doug Miller

Where did you find this?

Hmmm.... guess mine wasn't made exactly to spec. :-)

Reply to
Doug Miller

I stole the info off the Logan lathe site tho it doesn't seem to be there anymore

some not-so-quick Goolging yielded the following:

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concise layout of all the Morse Tapers with a good diagram from a Brit woodturner
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a chart with all the information any sane person would ever want to know about Morse Tapers
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from the folks at LittleMachineShop - parts for the dreaded Chinese metal mini lathe Morse Taper info - with Jacobs Tapers as well also has data for Brown&Sharpe and Jarno

Reply to
cueboy2

Let's face it. If its a wood lathe, then the chances of it being a Morse Taper is in the vicinity of 99 out of a 100. Rather than 'cuss and discuss' it, why not just try a MT and see if it works? Dan

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Dan Bollinger

Thanks to all for your help. It turns out that I have a #1 &#2 Morse taper. Though these parts are somewhat shorter than normal the tapers are correct. I was able to borrow sleeves and verify this.

Thanks once again and Merry Christmas to all.

Regards, T.

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Trevor

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