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I found a terrific website of a woodworker in Hawaii who has found a way to work with green wood. He has begun using concentrated dishwashing detergant mixed with water to treat wood that is still very wet, often only a day down from the tree. Using this method, he has turned many projects and been able to finish them with minimal cracking, shrinking, and warping of the wood typically associated with us turners as being a big problem when turning and drying green wood. Seems like there is no shortage of ideas on this subject, but if anyone is interested, check out

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Once there, click on 'techniques' and scroll down a little to where the article 'experimental new treatment for wood' begins and read on. I plan to try this soon, but thought of posting it here to encourage others to try it out. Hopefully, we can do some collective research and testing on all different types of wood and compile our findings here. I would be curious to know if anyone has heard of this, tried it, and what the results were.

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marc
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Buddy Matlosz

Hey Marc,

There has actually been several discussions on the group in the past about using LDD to prevent cracking and warping in green wood. It works well for some, and not so good for others. I have used it a couple times myself with good results. If you check out Google groups here

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you can view several of the past discussions regarding LDD. Hope this helps answer any questions you might have as to its use and effetiveness. Donald

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Dvivian

what is guaranteed to work with green wood, 100% of the time, every time, is to turn it to finished size imediately after cutting and to have a wall thickness of no greater than 1/8 inch - it will not split, it might move, but it won't split

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William Noble

marc - the reason you are hearing the crickets chirping on this one is EXACTLY the reason Buddy wrote.

This method (also known as the LDS method, DWS method, etc., ) and the alcohol drying method, the microwave method, and all manner of other ways to dry wood have been beat to death here.

Seriously, search the archives for "LDS drying", "soap drying" and any other way you can put it.

It is a divided camp: air drying vs. forced drying. For some these methods work, for some they don't, but for the record, I don't know anyone that does any of them anymore.

Robert

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nailshooter41

Hi Marc, Thanks for posting a reminder about using LDD process to dry green wood. Each of the many drying methods has its true believers, which means there is no one best way, but I think their enthusiasm is good for woodturning. Leif at snipped-for-privacy@mashell.com is the rcw LDD guru. email him for info.

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robo hippy

Hey! You guys talking about the LDD method behind my back? *G* Bravo for you Marc! I went the LDD way and despite all the poo-pooing by the crusty oldtimers about it not working, or that baking, boiling, frying, freezing, alcohol soaking, thinness of wall, bagging, air drying for a couple of centuries is the way to go. Look into it and make up your own mind on it. The reason no one is reporting their success with it, is because of the scorn and loathing that will be heaped on their heads. [Just kidding, guys/gals!] All hail Ron Kent, our founder!!(MHNBB)*G*

Leif

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Leif Thorvaldson

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