A "rant"...

A call today with a request for a Cobweb Lace Wedding Ring Shawl... and this woman has a set of brass balls! She first could not understand that I do not have the yarn (Jamieson & Smith's Cobweb) 'on-hand', nor could she understand the timetable of ordering said yarn, then actually knitting the shawl. THEN, she attempted to haggle the price of the completed shawl... and had the nerve to ask why I couldn't be 'Jewed-down' (her words, NOT mine!) After enduring her verbal abuse for fifteen minutes, during which time I learned that her dress for the 'event' she wants the shawl for is running seven times the price I quoted for a hand-knit shawl, I bit my tongue, and sweetly told her that I felt I could not do business with her. I recommended that she have her couture dress-maker sew her a matching wrap. She then informed me that said seamstress quoted her a price TWICE what I was asking for one of my shawls, and that was why she turned to me! OMG! So, my price is half, and she's still trying to get me to agree to knit a shawl for a pittance.... At this point, my lip actually bleeds from biting it. I'm insulted, and more than a tad bit angry, and, while murderous thoughts are forming, I'm at a loss for words... and not-very-politely, I hung up. (yeah, I slammed it!) Exactly fourteen minutes later, the phone rings again. Since we don't have caller-ID, I let it ring seven times before picking up. Yep, same brass-balled woman, this time trying a different approach. I'm a believer in second-chances, and am more than willing to overlook first impressions, so I listen, and make the obligatory remarks here and there, until... GET THIS! .... she starts right in again about how she doesn't feel my price is justified! My gawd. I finally told her to go to the local co-op, get a gunnysack, and wear IT. Click. Yep, she hung up on me this time. And didn't call back.

NOT to insult female dogs, but can you spell: B I T x H???

Noreen, grrrrrrrrrrrrring.....

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Reply to
The YarnWright
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Noreen! *snaggle, fraggle, fffptzzzzzz* Good grief! You were so gracious! Well done!

Donna in Philly

Reply to
Donna in Philly

Hi, Donna! The only reason I remained so 'gracious' was that I was so flabbergasted, LOL! Noreen

Reply to
The YarnWright

DEAR NOREEN !!!! GOOD FOR YOU ,,,,, Although i live in the East and haggling is an Art here..... the way this woman haggled with you is offensive ,,, [ not to mention the nasty term she used ]..... Haggling is nice when done in good sport ,, never insulting the other side !!!! whenever i get a price that seems too high `for my ability` , i just tell the seller, i am sorry this is above my ability to pay for This item , or Service,,,,,,, if the seller feels he want to reduce the price he/she will say so ,,,, if not , nobody is offended ,,,, Her way was insult , she let you feel she is doing YOU a favour , by coming to you??? why doesn`t this kind of persons understand , a hand crafter is Doing them a favour ,,,,and that they should pay well for the SPECIALNESS of the crafted item ... mirjam

Reply to
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

Mirjam, I agree whole-heartedly, that haggling can be done in good-sport! And yes, her comment was offensive, and I took it as such, which was why I felt justified in my reaction. I would be just as offended had she used a Scot's reference, or any other commonly used, but offensive term or reference..... Hugs, Noreen... giving in to sleep and going to bed now!

Reply to
The YarnWright

Dear Noreen , i agree tottaly with you ,, any Coment Hinting at any `certain` group , is offensive.... I have had ghaggles in my life that were Joyfull and fun ,,,,I am not always haggling ,,, But i do what i described in my former later. But i also live in parts were Shopkeepers hate it when the first person entering the shop in the morning leaves , thus they will ofer reduced prices almost without being asked,,, Several yrears ago i visitred the Jaffa Market , and entered a shop of carpets as i saw this remarkable Suzani,,, now i know the worth of those ,,, THUS I TOLD the shopkeeper; " I don`t have enough money , can i please ONLY LOOK at this Suzani!!!" , i had no intention of buying it .... The man invited me and friend in, i specificly 'DIDN`T ask for the price ,,, my friends both experts on Suzanies , had long discussions with him, and than he told me the price ,,,, [ PHEWWWW] . I told him that i am very sorry , but i told him i am not buying !!!! I thanked him for allowing us to only look , and went on our way,,, he went after me ,, putting the price down , and telling me i was the first in the shop etc,,,, I became very apologetic ,,, and he went down and down , said he would accept my check ,, finnaly he went so down in price that i became ashamed and bought it ,,,[ trutyh was i wanted it , but it was way over my budget] ,,, Strangely enough the man was overjoyed, he told me i started his morning for him ..... several hours later , we left the market close to his shop ,, he ran towards me ,,, and Said ,, please come again , you brought luck to my day !!! i sold Several Rugs and carpets ,,, after you `opened my day` !!!! wel i felt better about the whole happening. A year later i entered this market, the man called me into his shop and asked me to buy something ,,, even a small item ,,,, i bought a very small item.. [ i could use as present].... hours later , as i left the market ,, he shouted to me ;; YOU Did It again ,, you opened a GOOD selling day ... mirjam

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Reply to
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

Hmmm, I've been in that position before, where you are shocked and flabbergasted by the offensive behavior....there was a time that I used to just cuss the offender out but I've grown and matured ~snort~

Donna [giggling] in Philly

Reply to
Donna in Philly

I can't say that I am surprised, Noreen. Disgusted, yes, but not surprised. This woman needs several lessons.

Higs, Katherine

Reply to
Katherine

I suggest you knit the shawl, then wrap it in a bag with a large handful of poison ivy for a few days, then put on some rubber gloves and remove the ivy before you give it to her.

Reply to
M Rimmer

I really believe that people think, "They'd just be sitting around knitting anyway, so why should they charge me for something they already be doing in their spare time?" I hate this attitude. The best way to get me to never make something is to ask me to do it....then tell me exactly how you want it done! I once offered to make a bridal veil for the knocked-up teenager across the street from where I used to live. She came over and looked over what I had already made and one that was partially done. She said about the partial one, "This is me!" She did ask that I shorten the veil (made of chiffon...not tulle, so the edges had to be hand finished). Well, a week before the wedding she comes to me with a secondhand veil that she bought and planned to return and asked if I could copy it! I said, "No. I don't know how and I don't have time." She got angry! And so did her sister...telling me, "It's her wedding! She should have what she wants!" Not a week before the wedding when I'm doing it for FREE and she already said how much she liked the one I'm finishing! I nicely told her, "Then she should keep the veil she found at the thrift shop." She actually returned the veil and wore the one I made...almost reluctantly! Oh...and let's not leave out the mother that felt I stepped on HER toes by even making the offer to make a veil for her daughter!

ARG!

Sorry to hear you had to put up with that gawd awful woman, Noreen!

/J

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Reply to
Jenn Vanderslice

Snort!!! LOL I like the way your mind thinks!!!

Reply to
Norma

Rickin, Rackin, frigatorshepek! Amazing what how some people think! Good for you Noreen!

Reply to
Norma

That's why I don't try to sell my work anymore. Only someone who does crafts can appreciate how much time and love goes into a project.

Reply to
Mike & Joan O'Brien

Welcome to the world of people who think that hand crafted items magically appear finished. When she called back the second time, I would have told her that I checked the current price of the materials and it had doubled since the last time I had ordered it and therefore her price would also have to be doubled. I am sure that you know the number of hours that it takes to knit an item, figure out how much an hour you are making at the price they want to pay. Then ask them if they would work for that amount. When dealing with most people, this is where the conversation ends. DA

Reply to
DA

How nice, Mirjam! Your story of making the shopkeeper's day made me smile! :o)

Gemini

Reply to
MRH

:D ... me TOO! Noreen

Reply to
The YarnWright

snort! LOL! Noreen

Reply to
The YarnWright

Yeesh, Jenn! Noreen hoping the unappreciative teenager had a 60 hour labour!

Reply to
The YarnWright

DH said the same, that he'd've told her the price had doubled... yes, people like that wouldn't work for peanuts, but expect others to... Noreen

Reply to
The YarnWright

LOL, funny thing is, I wasn't soliciting TO sell, she called ME! Noreen

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The YarnWright

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