Decreasing Evenly

Oops! I mean 7 betwixt the stitches

Hesira

hesira wrote:

Oops, again, between the INCREASES...Sigh. Oh, well, I'm rather enjoying this conversation between me and myself.

Hesira,

who might be go> Oops! I mean 7 betwixt the stitches

Hesira,

You definately need to even the stitch increases out a even as you can across our around the piece.

On round if you increase to much on one side you will have a bulge.

I hope I explained this right.

It is very important to increase evenly around the project.

Hugs & God bless, Dennis & Gail

Thanks Dennis,

I do understand that the decreases/increases need to be evenly spaced. I don't think I asked the question very well. What I meant to say was:

If you are knitting in the round and putting 7 stitches between your increases, then does it matter if you start that round with increasing on stitch number 8, or should the 7 stitches be divided in half the way they are in flat knitting, making the first increase on stitch number 4 (3 stitches before the first increase)? This would leave 4 stitches after the LAST increase, so when you join the round, the last 4 and the first 3 make the 7 stitches between the first and last increases.

It seems to me that as long as there are 7 stitches between each increase, it shouldn't matter where they are, unless it affects the pattern in some way. If it doesn't matter, I could start the increases in a place to ensure that I always increase on a knit stitch rather than a purl.

Hugs,

Hesira

SpikeDriver wrote:

On 7 Sep 2006 18:14:39 -0700, "hesira" spewed forth :

Divide by the number of decreases and subtract one to see how many stitches to work between decreases. If you have extra stitches just fudge THOSE in evenly.

It's a paper-pencil-picture problem for me right now to do the actual figuring...

Or does it

If you start counting at the beginning of the round and work in the decreases evenly around you shouldn't have stitches left at the beginning and end - unless you forget to fudge in the remainder.

I thought we were talking about decreases?

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I meant to write INCREASE, but instead wrote DECREASE. My brain was mushy last night as well. I had a 3 part conversation with myself until Dennis stepped in to save me. See previous posts under this subject.

Thanks for the decrease formula, though. I can use it.

Hesira Wooly wrote:

On 8 Sep 2006 06:12:25 -0700, "hesira" spewed forth :

Har, doncha hate it?

To increase, add one to the number of increases required and divide THAT number into the current stitch count. That gives you the number of segments into which to divide the work - increase at the division points, fudge in any spare stitches.

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Thanks, Wooly for both formulas.

Hesira

Wooly wrote:

On 8 Sep 2006 06:37:58 -0700, "hesira" spewed forth :

I see I didn't explain it properly, either.

Increases + 1 = segments

divide stitch count by segments, that's the number of stitches between increases.

coffee? coffee? brain? brain??

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LOL, I haven't gotten around to knitting this morning, so it's OK. Thanks for straightening it out, though.

Hesira

Wooly wrote:

Hi Mirjam,

I'm making socks that need to be increased after the cuff. The cuff is

My question was, if you are working in the round, does it matter where you BEGIN the increases? Wooly straightened that out.

Thanks,

Hesira

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:

Thanks, Stella,

Hesirsa

Stella Fenley wrote:

Hesira i am lost , what are you knitting and what shape are you trying to make , please elaborate ,, so i can try and help you. mirjam

Hesira - I've been reading this thread and I'm not sure that your question got entirely answered. :

I would say if you are knitting in the round, and your increases or decreases are all evently spaced within a single round, it doesn't matter if you start with stitch # 8 and have the last adjustement at the end of the round, or start with one of the earlier stitches, making your last adjustment an appropriate number of stitches before the end of the round. Unless the increases (or decreases, I've lost track of which you actually want!) are part of an ongoing pattern, it doesn't matter where they begin relative to the beginning of the round, as long as they are evenly spaced.

Hope this helps.

-Jackie

Thanks, Jackie. That is indeed part of my question. It seemed to me that just as you say, if the increases are not part of the pattern, and they are evenly spaced, it doesn't matter exactly where I start them.

Sorry to be so confusing. I was addled last night and couldn't tell my increases from my decreases. The question was supposed to be about INCREASES, but I accidently put decreases in the post title. As Wooly said, this Graves's Disease does things to your concentration.

Hesira

khoff wrote:

Hesira - I didn't realize these were socks. When I make socks and I need to increase, especially with 8 stitches, (I knit on 4 needles) I would just increase this way: (these ideas assume that you are just knitting around)

To do in one round: Needle 1: K1, KFB (knit in the front and back of 1 stitch - or use favorite increase), k to last 2 sts, KFB, K1 Repeat for needles 2, 3 and 4 - 8 sts increased

To do in two rounds: Needle 1: K1, KFB (knit in the front and back of 1 stitch - or use favorite increase), k to end Needle 2: K to last 2 sts, KFB, K1 Needle 3 - repeat Needle 1 Needle 4 - repeat Needle 2

These mirror the way that I've been taught to decrease for the toe.

Alis>Hi Mirjam,

Hesira,

If there is one person that knows how to explain it is Wooly.

We are lucky to have her.

Yes, I get you now, sorry for not getting it the first time.

Knit ON!!!

Dennis & Gail